ShonTron
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You know what I found wonky?
Bolton is cheaper than Brampton to Union Station!
Bolton is cheaper than Brampton to Union Station!
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RedRocket191
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Dan416
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Maybe it's time to scrap the whole zone system and just do it by pure distance?
RedRocket191
Senior Member
That's the post-presto plan.
marcus_a_j
Senior Member
By the way, I finally got my sidewalk
Congrats, I can still hear the outcries.
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Swamp Thing
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And since they're in the same "fare zone", why does it cost $3.95 to go from Bloor GO Station or Exhibition GO Station to Union Station?
I suspect that GO Transit's idea of a fare zone is different than the rest of the world's.
I suspect that GO Transit's idea of a fare zone is different than the rest of the world's.
nfitz
Superstar
$3.95 is the minimum cash fare for travel within the same zone. be it downtown Toronto, Stoney Creek, or Caledon. So travel within Caledon is also $3.95
How do you mean? Seems the same as I've seen elsewhere. Take TFL in London for example. The minimum cash fare for travel in the same zone is £3.20; (£4.00 if Zone 1). Makes GO look like a bargain!
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doady
Senior Member
The problem with the minimum cost for GO is that they have increasing fares at a flat rate for all trips regardless of the distance travelled. So people who travel the shortest distance see the highest fare increase in terms of percentage.
waterloowarrior
Senior Member
They intentionally make the cash prices high in order to get people to use Oyster smartcards... using Oyster the same zone price is £1.10 (all zones except zone 1) or £1.60 (zone 1)
nfitz
Superstar
Agreed!
True, there's quite an incentive to use Oyster ... (compared to the single-zone Presto fare of $3.65) ... but I wonder how much longer that will continue. But check out the single-zone monthly passes, they are £63.80 outside of Zone 1, and £99.10 inside zone 1; compare that to GO's monthly single-zone pass of $132 - quite similiar. It's the single-ride Oyster fares that are extremely low.
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torontobatman
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Something I've always found interesting with GO's monthlies - is that it only takes ~15 work days for it to be more advantageous than single ride tickets. That's fairly low - especially compared to the TTC Metropass. I wonder if it's a good thing...
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Swamp Thing
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I guess I've just been spoiled by Calgary's C-Train, where travel within the central fare zone (basically on 7th Ave.) is free of charge.
Hong Kong Light Rail (MTR) used to charge only for crossing from one zone to another (but with the current Oyster Card, passengers are charged by station). Google reveals similar fare structures in Seattle, Portland (OR), Pittsburgh, Salt Lake City, Allegheny County and Perth (AUS).
But I take your point that these examples are likely the minority, as much as I'd wish otherwise.
TOareaFan
Superstar
I think the presumption on GO is that all your pass is good/used for is one return trip per day.....TTC, however, offers you the chance to whip around town at your whim and pleasure many times a day...
DavidH
Senior Member
I'd say that as a regional network, GO simply doesn't offer the "whip around town" opportunities" that TTC does, and so there is little point in actively pricing to encourage that sort of behaviour.
Their pass pricing is likely intended to encourage monthly usage due its lower operating costs (fewer lineups in stations, no need for bus drivers to stamp each time).
This may change as (a) GO service increases over time (e.g. half-hourly all day service on all train lines) and (b) GO pricing structure changes with the advent of Presto.
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Swamp Thing
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What changes due to Presto are you anticipating? Will "fare zones" go away to be replaced by per-station pricing?
(Apologies if there is a Presto thread I should be reading.)