denfromoakvillemilton
Senior Member
Did these get canceled? Or are they still on? Cannot find any recent info.
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No new surface LRT during this mayor's term. Those were Phase 2 of Transit City, with Phase 1 cancelled we are unlikely to get to Phase 2.
Why are you asking for more information when he gave you the full status of the project? In November, Ford stopped all work on Transit City, but has yet to take any transit approval to council (such as the Eglinton MOU). Work that was done before the election will live on in archives, but no money will be spend before 2014. Everyone is ratcheting down on tucking project work into larger budgets.
http://www.toronto.ca/involved/projects/jane_lrt/index.htm
http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/11/30/mayor-ford%E2%80%99s-first-stop-hit-brakes-on-transit-city/
Why because we currently have a $12.9 billion subway scheme that has $8.2 billion in funding. Jane, Don Mills, and Malvern LRTs are all good line concepts, but like how the Network 2011 plan got chopped down to the Sheppard Stub Subway, the TransitCity plan will be chopped down to the Eglinton LRT Subway. Finch West wasn't cancelled so much as defunded. They still realise something has to be done to improve service in the area, they're just going with the cheapest version possible because there isn't money left nor political appitite for LRT.
The lines have dropped off future system concept drawings, so there isn't a chance of them being designed and built before 2020. We'll probably have to wait until 2015 until we have any new project spending. Until then we'll build a couple of the things we've been looking at for the last decade or two.
Ok. So in theory If Adam Vaughan gets elected in 2014 we could have all these lines completed by 2030?
A proper plan would have seen the Sheppard subway finished...
Never? That's what some people said about extending Yonge to Finch in the 70s. Turns out Steeles would have been an even better idea.Sheppard will never need that kind of capacity.
Never? That's what some people said about extending Yonge to Finch in the 70s.
Not with that lack of ambition!North York Centre and Scarborough Centre will never have the draw of downtown.
No doubt we'd be better off today if Eglinton had won out over Sheppard 15 years ago, but what's done is done.
The bottom line is that any merits of your arguments pale in comparison to the political appeal of a Sheppard subway. Miller tried for an extension in his first term and Ford is having a go now. And if he fails, I predict no future Mayor will risk all those Scarborough and North York votes with another LRT proposal. It's either subway or nothing.
The Eglinton line would be better as a subway than Sheppard but still the DRL makes more sense.
Then building nothing makes more sense because there are transit projects that will serve more passengers for the same dollars spent. Ford didn't win on a Sheppard subway, and Miller didn't loose on a Sheppard subway. Still, even if a Sheppard subway is destined to be due to politics overruling intelligent thought, it still doesn't change the fact that Lastman was an idiot for starting it and any politician that would spend a cent on it isn't a sound fiscal manager of the public purse.
The only thing we can do is make the Sheppard subway useful by extending it to proper terminii, Downsview aka Sheppard West and Scarborough Centre. As long as it's unfinished, it won't realize it's full potential.