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Sometimes; I have been the eyes and ears a lot over the years, but honestly, fatigue has set in. EVERYONE knows this is a major issue and while improving compared to the rock bottom it hit, it is still a daily issue for me be it my LRT 'warm up' shortcuts or on our streets in and around the Downtown. I am not expecting 24/7 coverage or prevention, but CPTED is not even being adhered to.
 
I took a walk thru Commerce Place, Manulife, ECC, Sandman Signature Hotel, Bell, COE, JW, Stantec and Rogers Place in the early afternoon. Homeless folks were occupying pedways, and was garbage strewn all over. Security had to escort out some guy who was smoking inside the Commerce Place washroom. I hope workers are back next week so that things are back to normal - there seemed to be fewer workers than what's normally seen due to the New Year holiday.
 
I took a walk thru Commerce Place, Manulife, ECC, Sandman Signature Hotel, Bell, COE, JW, Stantec and Rogers Place in the early afternoon. Homeless folks were occupying pedways, and was garbage strewn all over. Security had to escort out some guy who was smoking inside the Commerce Place washroom. I hope workers are back next week so that things are back to normal - there seemed to be fewer workers than what's normally seen due to the New Year holiday.

Effective next week, I believe all dt Enbridge workers have been mandated back to the office 5 days a week versus 2-3 previously.
 
Effective next week, I believe all dt Enbridge workers have been mandated back to the office 5 days a week versus 2-3 previously.
Hi there, long time lurker but first post. The above isn’t true, their employees still have the option to work from home 2 days a week, but they are enforcing being in the other 3. There are a few restrictions where if they have other flexible arrangements they need to come in more days but doubt it will make a material difference. They have fixed days in the office, mon, tue, thur.
 
Hi there, long time lurker but first post. The above isn’t true, their employees still have the option to work from home 2 days a week, but they are enforcing being in the other 3. There are a few restrictions where if they have other flexible arrangements they need to come in more days but doubt it will make a material difference. They have fixed days in the office, mon, tue, thur.

Thanks for clarification- the person who told me that has worked for Enbridge several years and said he was returning to 5 days a week in the office starting in New Year and that it was company wide. I'll give him s#%t next time I talk to him, 😀

In any event, glad the post got you to finally step outside of lurking status to an official contributor. Keep it going!
 
Thanks for clarification- the person who told me that has worked for Enbridge several years and said he was returning to 5 days a week in the office starting in New Year and that it was company wide. I'll give him s#%t next time I talk to him, 😀

In any event, glad the post got you to finally step outside of lurking status to an official contributor. Keep it going!
Ha, don’t give him too tough a time, it means he just chose to keep a reduced work week which means he can’t wfh. It will bring a few people into the office full time to keep that privilege from what I understand but won’t bring everyone,

I will try to use my new found registration for good use.
 
Over the holidays, I met up with my nephew who is 11 months in to a trip around the world with his wife - they live in Vancouver but family is here. So far, they've spent 5 months throughout South America, then part of Africa and now Asia. They finish in April in Europe before coming home again.

I asked him some takeaways from his travels so far. The first thing he mentioned was that we tolerate a lot in Canada/U.S - things that other places do not tolerate and then he specifically referenced public transportation (drugs, cleanliness, safety).
I've lived in KL Malaysia for the past 11 years and seeing a homeless person is a rare event, even in the poor parts of the city. They have a public transit elevated train that is clean, functional, safe and cheap - I have never felt unsafe on the MRT and it is a very nice system. They do not tolerate drugs here - penalties for possession are harsh and penalty for dealing drugs can be death. They also don't tolerate massive pro-palestine death to Israel and Jewish people protests. Malaysia is a democratic country and is 60% muslim, 25% chinese and 8 percent Indian and 7 percent indigineous - the government mandates national holidays for all the big religious events here and Christmas is a national holiday and despite having hardly any Christians they love Christmas here. I have never seen a pro-palestine protest or event here - I know the government here does not recognize Israel but they do not allow massive protests because they want peace and stability in this diverse society that has had significant racial issues in its past. I have been living overseas for close to 30 years now in various countries in Europe and Asia and I return to Edmonton yearly or every couple of years - its astonishing what has happened in Canada - the world is very very competitive and there are countries with a fraction of our natural wealth and resources (like South Korea) that have passed us, or will pass us shortly in terms of GDP per capita. Seoul Korea is safe, efficient, high tech and clean and people act civilized towards each other -there are no gangs of drug addicted homeless thugs scaring people - but penalties for drug possession and dealing drugs in South Korea are very stiff. Opioids are basically banned in Asia because governments know very well what opioids can do to a society - they will only use morphine as a pain reliever in extreme medical situations - the doctors here do not hand out oxycontins and they must look at the oxy / heroin epidemic in Canada and USA with astonishment - they must think how could the governments and doctors in Canada and USA be so stupid.

South Korea has a universal health care program that is excellent and there are elements of private health care that people can opt into if they wish and it is light years better than Canada's system. There is hardly any wait times for surgery in South Korea - a high income democratic country of 60 000 000 million people with hardly any natural resources, a small country a fraction the size of Alberta that is mostly mountains - how did they do this? Also, dental is very affordable - a teeth scaling in a very modern dental office in Malaysia is 40 - 50 Canadian dollars. People take care of themselves more here and there is more personal responsibility - much less junk food. Unfortunately Canadian judges, law enforcement (especially in Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal and Victoria) and government leaders have put the rights of the few above the rights of the majority and the chaos, crime and decline of Canadian society is what has ensued. Canada needs to correct itself quickly because its global reputation has taken a big hit and competitive and no-nonsense countries will continue to pass us by and soak up investment dollars. I am friends with several Malaysians and they told me that there is a running joke in Malaysia that if a Malaysian gets arrested for a serious crime and is facing jail time they can emigrate to Canada online and get out of Dodge.
 
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I've lived in KL Malaysia for the past 11 years and seeing a homeless person is a rare event, even in the poor parts of the city. They have a public transit elevated train that is clean, functional, safe and cheap - I have never felt unsafe on the MRT and it is a very nice system. They do not tolerate drugs here - penalties for possession are harsh and penalty for dealing drugs can be death. They also don't tolerate massive pro-palestine death to Israel and Jewish people protests. Malaysia is a democratic country and is 60% muslim, 25% chinese and 8 percent Indian and 7 percent indigineous - the government mandates national holidays for all the big religious events here and Christmas is a national holiday and despite having hardly any Christians they love Christmas here. I have never seen a pro-palestine protest or event here. I have been living overseas for close to 30 years now in various countries in Europe and Asia and I return to Edmonton yearly or every couple of years - its astonishing what has happened in Canada - the world is very very competitive and there are countries with a fraction of our natural wealth and resources (like South Korea) that have passed us, or will pass us shortly in terms of GDP per capita. Seoul Korea is safe, efficient, high tech and clean and people act civilized towards each other -there are no gangs of drug addicted homeless thugs scaring people - but penalties for drug possession and dealing drugs in South Korea are very stiff. Opioids are basically banned in Asia because governments know very well what opioids can do to a society - they will only use morphine as a pain reliever in extreme medical situations - the doctors here do not hand out oxycontins and they must look at the oxy / heroin epidemic in Canada and USA with astonishment - they must think how could the governments and doctors in Canada and USA be so stupid. South Korea has a universal health care program that is excellent and there are elements of private health care that people can opt into if they wish and it is light years better than Canada's system. There is hardly any wait times for surgery in South Korea - a high income democratic country of 60 000 000 million people with hardly any natural resources, a small country a fraction the size of Alberta that is mostly mountains - how did they do this? Also, dental is very affordable - a teeth scaling in a very modern dental office in Malaysia is 40 - 50 Canadian dollars. People take care of themselves more here and there is more personal responsibility - much less junk food. Unfortunately Canadian judges, law enforcement (especially in Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal and Victoria) and government leaders have put the rights of the few above the rights of the majority and the chaos, crime and decline of Canadian society is what has ensued. Canada needs to correct itself quickly because its global reputation has taken a big hit and competitive and no-nonsense countries will continue to pass us buy and soak up investment dollars. I am friends with several Malaysians and they told me that there is a running joke in Malaysia that if a Malaysian gets arrested for a serious crime and is facing jail time they can emigrate to Canada online and get out of Dodge.
People still think the world is “behind” canada and that the US is the only place we have to worry about losing skilled labour to.

We are going to see more and more of our most skilled and wealthy people leave. So many good options out there. Relational ties keep many, but not all, here.
 
I've lived in KL Malaysia for the past 11 years and seeing a homeless person is a rare event, even in the poor parts of the city. They have a public transit elevated train that is clean, functional, safe and cheap - I have never felt unsafe on the MRT and it is a very nice system. They do not tolerate drugs here - penalties for possession are harsh and penalty for dealing drugs can be death. They also don't tolerate massive pro-palestine death to Israel and Jewish people protests. Malaysia is a democratic country and is 60% muslim, 25% chinese and 8 percent Indian and 7 percent indigineous - the government mandates national holidays for all the big religious events here and Christmas is a national holiday and despite having hardly any Christians they love Christmas here. I have never seen a pro-palestine protest or event here. I have been living overseas for close to 30 years now in various countries in Europe and Asia and I return to Edmonton yearly or every couple of years - its astonishing what has happened in Canada - the world is very very competitive and there are countries with a fraction of our natural wealth and resources (like South Korea) that have passed us, or will pass us shortly in terms of GDP per capita. Seoul Korea is safe, efficient, high tech and clean and people act civilized towards each other -there are no gangs of drug addicted homeless thugs scaring people - but penalties for drug possession and dealing drugs in South Korea are very stiff. Opioids are basically banned in Asia because governments know very well what opioids can do to a society - they will only use morphine as a pain reliever in extreme medical situations - the doctors here do not hand out oxycontins and they must look at the oxy / heroin epidemic in Canada and USA with astonishment - they must think how could the governments and doctors in Canada and USA be so stupid. South Korea has a universal health care program that is excellent and there are elements of private health care that people can opt into if they wish and it is light years better than Canada's system. There is hardly any wait times for surgery in South Korea - a high income democratic country of 60 000 000 million people with hardly any natural resources, a small country a fraction the size of Alberta that is mostly mountains - how did they do this? Also, dental is very affordable - a teeth scaling in a very modern dental office in Malaysia is 40 - 50 Canadian dollars. People take care of themselves more here and there is more personal responsibility - much less junk food. Unfortunatley Canadian judges, law enforcement (especially in Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal and Victoria) and government leaders have put the rights of the few above the rights of the majority and the chaos, crime and decline of Canadian society is what has ensued. Canada needs to correct itself quickly because its global reputation has taken a big hit and competitive and no-nonsense countries will continue to pass us buy and soak up investment dollars. I am friends with several Malaysians and they told me that there is a running joke in Malaysia that if a Malaysian gets arrested for a serious crime and is facing jail time they can emigrate to Canada online and get out of Dodge.

Holy smokes, don't forget to breathe...

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To your comparative points tho, its worth noting that nearly every Asian country had a few decades of martial law during the 20th century, where many instigators of social unrest were simply removed.

This most definitely had a eugenic effect on their populations that is seen to this day.

Sadly, thanks to decades of negligence and mismanagement, Canada is now at a point where similar solutions may be the only viable corrective option. :(
 
I've lived in KL Malaysia for the past 11 years and seeing a homeless person is a rare event, even in the poor parts of the city. They have a public transit elevated train that is clean, functional, safe and cheap - I have never felt unsafe on the MRT and it is a very nice system. They do not tolerate drugs here - penalties for possession are harsh and penalty for dealing drugs can be death. They also don't tolerate massive pro-palestine death to Israel and Jewish people protests - Malaysia is a democratic country and is 60% muslim, 25% chinese and 8 percent Indian and 7 percent indigineous - the government mandates national holidays for all the big religious events here and Christmas is a national holiday and despite having hardly any Christians they love Christmas here. I have never seen a pro-palestine protest or event here. I have been living overseas for close to 30 years now in various countries in Europe and Asia and I return to Edmonton yearly or every couple of years - its astonishing what has happened in Canada - the world is very very competitive and there are countries with a fraction of our natural wealth and resources (like South Korea) that have passed us, or will pass us shortly in terms of GDP per capita. Seoul Korea is safe, efficient, high tech and clean and people act civilized towards each other -there are no gangs of drug addicted homeless thugs scaring people - but penalties for drug possession and dealing drugs in South Korea are very stiff. South Korea has a universal health care program that is excellent and there are elements of private health care that people can opt into if they wish and it is light years better then Canada's system. Also, dental is very affordable - a teeth scaling in a very modern dental office in Malaysia is 40 - 50 Canadian dollars. Also, people take care of themselves more here and there is more personal responsibility - much less junk food. Unfortunatley Canadian judges, law enforcement (especially in Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal and Victoria) and government leaders have put the rights of the few above the rights of the majority and the chaos, crime and decline of Canadian society is what has ensued. Canada needs to correct itself quickly because its global reputation has taken a big hit and competitive and no-nonsense countries will continue to pass us buy and soak up investment dollars. I am friends with several Malaysians and they told me that there is a running joke in Malaysia that if a Malaysian gets arrested for a serious crime and is facing jail time they can emigrate to Canada online and get out of Dodge.

People still think the world is “behind” canada and that the US is the only place we have to worry about losing skilled labour to.

We are going to see more and more of our most skilled and wealthy people leave. So many good options out there. Relational ties keep many, but not all, here.

Holy smokes, don't forget to breathe...

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To your comparative points tho, its worth noting that nearly every Asian country had a few decades of martial law during the 20th century, where many instigators of social unrest were simply removed.

This most definitely had a eugenic effect on their populations that is seen to this day.

Sadly, thanks to decades of negligence and mismanagement, Canada is now at a point where similar solutions may be the only viable corrective option. :(
You are right - I know paragraphs should not exceed 300 words - I was on a roll. I went back and split it into two paragraphs 😁
 
Hi there, long time lurker but first post. The above isn’t true, their employees still have the option to work from home 2 days a week, but they are enforcing being in the other 3. There are a few restrictions where if they have other flexible arrangements they need to come in more days but doubt it will make a material difference. They have fixed days in the office, mon, tue, thur.
Welcome! Do you have an idea of around how many staff are affected by this? I'm just trying to get a sense of how in/significant it is.
 
Do you report these incidents to TransitWatch?

I shoot them a text every time I see anything like this; people blocking walkways, acting aggressive, sleeping in elevators, any kind of drug use, etc. They always answer right away and say they will send a peace officer. I like being able to text instead of call as it is discrete and you can report someone near you without them knowing.

I don't usually stick around to see if officers actually show up, but my hope is if they have lots of incident reports then they have data to back up a decision to increase patrols, CCTV, etc.

Follow up to this - I passed through Corona station this morning, probably 8-10 people laying around on the floor at the 108st entrance, garbage strewn around and one area that looked like it was on fire recently.

Texted transitwatch, since they were not actively doing drugs or committing a crime, they only said they will "keep an eye on them". So basically all of the above is acceptable use of transit space according to them, ffs...

Does anyone know what became of the Public Spaces Bylaw review that was happening last year? It included making it illegal to loiter in transit spaces. The latest news I can find is from February 2024, saying that council decided to send the review back for more research.
 
To your comparative points tho, its worth noting that nearly every Asian country had a few decades of martial law during the 20th century, where many instigators of social unrest were simply removed.

This most definitely had a eugenic effect on their populations that is seen to this day.

Sadly, thanks to decades of negligence and mismanagement, Canada is now at a point where similar solutions may be the only viable corrective option. :(
If you think the Jeju and Bodo League massacres, or the Indonesian mass killings of the 1960s, would be an acceptable price to pay for not having to see homeless people on public transit—I don't know what to tell you. For my part, I think a commitment to democracy and human rights, including the right to dissent, should be a bare minimum requirement for calling oneself Canadian.
 
If you think the Jeju and Bodo League massacres, or the Indonesian mass killings of the 1960s, would be an acceptable price to pay for not having to see homeless people on public transit—I don't know what to tell you. For my part, I think a commitment to democracy and human rights, including the right to dissent, should be a bare minimum requirement for calling oneself Canadian.
Settle down sally, it was an explanation, not an endorsement
 
Settle down sally, it was an explanation, not an endorsement

Maybe this statement in your earlier post is confusing or open to misinterpretation-

"Canada is now at a point where similar solutions may be the only viable corrective option."

What similar solutions do you mean?
 

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