MacLac
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How many criminals are "dropped" off / sent to in EDM, Reg or the Peg?
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MacLac
Senior Member
On second thought - who cares - homicides victims are most of the time known to the shooter. So my take is - if you're innocent you're gonna live. If you're a criminal scumbag - than your chances of living diminish.
policyenthusiast
Senior Member
A lot. The Alberta penitentiary system sticks Edmonton with disproportionately large criminal release volumes without the funding to support it.
IanO
Superstar
Sadly, lots of broken windows of late.
I counted 5 on my way to work today; what gives??!?!?!
I counted 5 on my way to work today; what gives??!?!?!
IanO
Superstar
This spot in the alley between 103-104 south of 102ave has become a magnet for a lot of things since the 'future loft' property has been sold.
buildings
Active Member
I think it's frustration and a bit of jealousy on the part of the homeless and the drug addled. I've witnessed countless times when someone has put out furniture and such by the back-alley dumpster probably thinking "someone might find a use for this" only to see the next morning someone has smashed the thing to pieces. Something akin to "if I can't have this then nobody can".
Offworld
Active Member
From parts northern? West north west? Northwest? North north west? North? North east north? Northeast? East north east? Lots of unhappy places to choose from.
The_Cat
Senior Member
Looks like two more suspicious fires this week.
kcantor
Senior Member
Yes, it’s nuanced and complex at the same time.
But reading some of the posts here is like reading a law book or a law school syllabus on the theories of bail application.
I think the concerns being expressed here is that the pendulum is swinging to the point where there is a substantially negative impact on the lives the bail system are also supposed to protect - and isn’t - along with protecting the rights of those accused but not yet convicted.
What we are experiencing now is not the nuance of an effective bail system, it’s a revolving door that spits people out as fast as they come in regardless of how frequently or how quickly the same individuals are brought in.
While it’s been pointed out that the bail system is nuanced, it may well be nuanced on paper but in practice it has become a waste of time for all involved and keeps many of them from becoming involved.
But reading some of the posts here is like reading a law book or a law school syllabus on the theories of bail application.
I think the concerns being expressed here is that the pendulum is swinging to the point where there is a substantially negative impact on the lives the bail system are also supposed to protect - and isn’t - along with protecting the rights of those accused but not yet convicted.
What we are experiencing now is not the nuance of an effective bail system, it’s a revolving door that spits people out as fast as they come in regardless of how frequently or how quickly the same individuals are brought in.
While it’s been pointed out that the bail system is nuanced, it may well be nuanced on paper but in practice it has become a waste of time for all involved and keeps many of them from becoming involved.
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thommyjo
Senior Member
Murder…out 5 years later, murder again.
Change the system
edmontonjournal.com
Change the system
Suspect arrested in connection with Edmonton homicide
Kyle Lauman, 35, was charged with second-degree murder, indignity to a body and possession of an offensive weapon.
edmontonjournal.com
IanO
Superstar
Expat friends from Calgary up in Edmonton this weekend for a night at The Westin with their fam with young kids.
Asked what happened to Downtown/this city and said the area around the RAM/AGA and Winspear felt unsafe and they would not be back to the CBD.
Good work is happening, far more positivity out there, but stories like this frustrate me.
Asked what happened to Downtown/this city and said the area around the RAM/AGA and Winspear felt unsafe and they would not be back to the CBD.
Good work is happening, far more positivity out there, but stories like this frustrate me.
ChazYEG
Senior Member
Numbers were down significantly in 2024, with Edmonton proper recording 2.3/100k and the CMA at 1.85/100k . Still not great, but fairly closer to the average for the city, and slightly below average for the CMA (1.92 for Canada in 2024).
Just for comparison, Calgary also went down to about 1.3/100k in the CMA and 1.7/100k in the city proper, which is a significantly smaller gap in 2024 over 2023,
The City of Toronto recorded a 3.1/100k in 2024 and the GTA 2.2/100k.
The City of Vancouver recorded roughly 2/100k and Vancouver Metro roughly 1.2/100k
City of Ottawa recorded 2.18/100k and the CMA recorded a 2.06/100k (higher than Edmonton's CMA)
Montreal recorded 1.54/100k and 1.35/100k respectively for city proper and CMA.
These numbers are all much closer than I expected, Toronto shocked me a bit, as did Ottawa. Edmonton's numbers have fallen off a cliff, compared to the rest, Vancouver and Calgary's remained relatively stable (but went down slightly) and Ottawa and Toronto have gone up. It's an interesting movement, and it's also curious that both Ontario cities have gone up quite a lot in their homicide rates. I did not go through the trouble of comparing other cities, as I am usually only interested in the big 5 (If Quebec or Winnipeg metros surpass 1M I'll consider talking about them).
MacLac
Senior Member
Great work on the stats but it's not murders we have to worry about here of what Ian's YYC buddies encountered. People who get shot are 99.9% criminal scumbags and deserve their come-uppins. It's the Zombieland freaks/ Fentanyl Hunchers that roam our DT freely looking for their next hit......while our Cops get paid Quadruple over time to watch over our non-violent hockey games/concerts.....
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David A
Senior Member
Interesting how crime throughout Edmonton ends up under downtown crime. Obviously perceptions still need a lot of work, but it is good to see some improvements for Edmonton vs. the recent past and elsewhere.
Kosy123
Senior Member
What's funny is I've heard the same thing from some family friends but with the Calgary CBD.