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This talk about underground waterways could be worth it's own thread. Mods?

Only if we're talking about swan boats as the technology to be used. But we're in Toronto, not New York City.

hurricane-sandy-subway-flooding-537x373.jpeg
 
Only if we're talking about swan boats as the technology to be used. But we're in Toronto, not New York City.

hurricane-sandy-subway-flooding-537x373.jpeg

Wow, and that's not even Lower Manhattan. Can't tell which of the 86th St Stations it is though (whether it's Lexington, Central Park W, or Broadway).
 
Wow, and that's not even Lower Manhattan. Can't tell which of the 86th St Stations it is though (whether it's Lexington, Central Park W, or Broadway).
All three are open today. The 86th Street station in Brooklyn is right near the ocean, and is more likely - but it's also open today. The 86th Street station on the N train in Brooklyn is closed still - but it's above ground.

The current operating map is at http://www.mta.info/sites/default/files/pdf/HurricaneRecoveryMapOct312012.pdf
 
All three are open today. The 86th Street station in Brooklyn is right near the ocean, and is more likely - but it's also open today. The 86th Street station on the N train in Brooklyn is closed still - but it's above ground.

The current operating map is at http://www.mta.info/sites/default/files/pdf/HurricaneRecoveryMapOct312012.pdf

Very true. I was trying to figure out how somewhere around Central Park could flood like that, but you're right, the Brooklyn Station makes a lot more sense.
 
At least with Toronto, we wouldn't expect a storm surge (of salt water) hitting below Front Street.
 
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Some hope for seeing this line sooner or later with Metrolinx's announcement that it is being prioritized.
http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1080785/metrolinx-unveils-next-wave-of-big-move-projects
It will be interesting to see what Metrolinx releases in the next few days, leading up to the board meeting next Wednesday.

Also of note, is TTC's announcement that improvements at Donlands station have been "deferred for two years "to allow for the Environmental Assessment for the proposed Downtown Relief Line to be completed and enable evaluation of any implications for Donlands Station to be evaluated". No URL for this, but it was in the November 27th letter that was sent to local residents, and presumably will be part of the presentation they are making at the public meeting on December 3rd at Wilkinson Junior Public School on Donlands Avenue. I'm not sure that the local community will be thrilled to hear that they are thinking of ripping up Donlands Avenue to build another subway line.
 
The DRL would most likely help the congestion on the Yonge line morning southbound from Bloor (and reverse in the afternoon). However, has anyone done or seen studies or survives on where the passengers from GO disembarking from Union Station actually go for their final destination? Most likely, most will walk up Bay Street or PATH. But how many actually get on the Subway (University or Yonge) as part of their journey?

There has been discussions that GO is going to exceed capacity at Union Station, maybe a few years after all that construction finishes. Could the DRL provide alternative transfer points, based on such findings? What if GO train stations could be setup to make such a transfer with the DRL (at a lower GO fare, of course). For example, what if a Gerrard/Pape GO station was built, replacing the Danforth GO station, how many people would that benefit or hinder?
 
A DRL can intercept the Lakeshore Line at Gerrard Square and Roncesvalles. It can also intercept the Richmond Hill line at Leslieville. And perhaps a Parkdale stop for those north west routes as well.
 
The DRL would most likely help the congestion on the Yonge line morning southbound from Bloor (and reverse in the afternoon). However, has anyone done or seen studies or survives on where the passengers from GO disembarking from Union Station actually go for their final destination? Most likely, most will walk up Bay Street or PATH. But how many actually get on the Subway (University or Yonge) as part of their journey?

There has been discussions that GO is going to exceed capacity at Union Station, maybe a few years after all that construction finishes. Could the DRL provide alternative transfer points, based on such findings? What if GO train stations could be setup to make such a transfer with the DRL (at a lower GO fare, of course). For example, what if a Gerrard/Pape GO station was built, replacing the Danforth GO station, how many people would that benefit or hinder?

I believe the metrolinx DRL proposal from a year ago had some info on this.
 
Like that Union East station for Lakeshore trains only was one of them, and another was a new GO station at Bathurst & Lakeshore.
 

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