TAS
Senior Member
Happy Holidays everyone!
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Wax
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johnnyboy
Active Member
As someone who is terrible with addresses, this is greatly appreciated!!
Markyeg
Active Member
thommyjo
Senior Member
A great video about the rise of Manchester after many years of decline. Some cool learnings in here around how they revitalized their downtown.
Kosy123
Senior Member
Damn it I knew I missed something haha. Oh well, that’s changing for next year’s map
Ohman
New Member
Worth watching, from 1984
Shocking that the same conversation is happening 40+ years later and how in some ways it looks way most bustling then in the footage. "but at night in contrast to many Canadian cities downtown dies". The fact that very little has changed in addressing these same issues doesn''t give me much hope that I will see a major turn around for another generation or two.
Shocking that the same conversation is happening 40+ years later and how in some ways it looks way most bustling then in the footage. "but at night in contrast to many Canadian cities downtown dies". The fact that very little has changed in addressing these same issues doesn''t give me much hope that I will see a major turn around for another generation or two.
Barnaby
Senior Member
More residents are needed.Worth watching, from 1984
Shocking that the same conversation is happening 40+ years later and how in some ways it looks way most bustling then in the footage. "but at night in contrast to many Canadian cities downtown dies". The fact that very little has changed in addressing these same issues doesn''t give me much hope that I will see a major turn around for another generation or two.
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TAS
Senior Member
The most recent type of downtown shopping that I think people came to the core to experience in bigger numbers was the 104st farmer's market on Saturdays - but not the smaller current version, the previous one that took up 104st from Jasper Ave to north of 102 ave and then also along102Ave that started near 105st and stretched out to nearly 103st.
I was living in Griesbach at that time and often came downtown for that. At the time I worked at Millennium Place and would usually see someone I knew from Sherwood Park there, too. It was a great weekly downtown shopping experience.
Kosy123
Senior Member
The good thing about the current downtown plan compared to the 1984 one is there’s actual substantial funding going into it.
I think in terms of residential unit growth, we’ve finally hit some momentum and we’re going to make decent progress by 2030.
The sticky issues imo are retail, perception and social disorder tbh. But I’ve got faith those will get addressed in some way over the next few years.
I think in terms of residential unit growth, we’ve finally hit some momentum and we’re going to make decent progress by 2030.
The sticky issues imo are retail, perception and social disorder tbh. But I’ve got faith those will get addressed in some way over the next few years.
The_Cat
Senior Member
I think it's more than the parking lots. People who don't want to go downtown, won't. Other people don't like the LRT or transit won't change.
Edmontonmanía
New Member
We all talk about more residents being the solution for downtown, and I agree. But, I always found paradoxical, after living in 104st and walking on a Sunday, how empty and desolate it feels, even with all the tall apartment towers there.
I know we already have 10-20k residents living in downtown, so adding 20% or more will really make the difference? I hope yes, and our downtown enters into a virtuous cycle, specially with all the exciting projects before the decade ends.
I know we already have 10-20k residents living in downtown, so adding 20% or more will really make the difference? I hope yes, and our downtown enters into a virtuous cycle, specially with all the exciting projects before the decade ends.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Lots of downtowns still have big issues with twice our population. So it’s certainly not a silver bullet. But of all the levers to pull, it’s likely the most wide reaching in benefits.
Things change. Brand new LRT lines help a ton to attract new users. And easier payment methods are a huge help too. The little things like thinking you need cash or finding out how to buy tickets for a bus stop, deter occasional users. But easy tap pay removes many of those barriers.
Most of my friends and I never went downtown growing up or even in uni. Now we all own bikes and regularly bike to downtown and central events due to the bike lanes. City changes and investments change people’s behaviour.
Things change. Brand new LRT lines help a ton to attract new users. And easier payment methods are a huge help too. The little things like thinking you need cash or finding out how to buy tickets for a bus stop, deter occasional users. But easy tap pay removes many of those barriers.
Most of my friends and I never went downtown growing up or even in uni. Now we all own bikes and regularly bike to downtown and central events due to the bike lanes. City changes and investments change people’s behaviour.
IanO
Superstar
We need 2x the pop along with 2-3 new hotels, for they create 10x the street life that housing does.
Not to mention more 'event nights' and festivals of all kinds at ECC, Arts District and other smaller venues.
Not to mention more 'event nights' and festivals of all kinds at ECC, Arts District and other smaller venues.
AntonK
New Member
Residents are a big key, but as IanO mentioned, we need at least twice the amount, maybe even triple the amount. There's a critical mass that brings about more retail, and more retail brings more people into downtown and more people out of there apartments. More events is another thing, but I'm guessing it'll come with more people living downtown.
I know so many people who don't want to come downtown, even for events. The suburban folks' perception of downtown isn't a good one, but double the population, add retail, and things could change.