What do you think of this project?

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It looks a little better the further you walk away from it.
 
Best to forget this one -- as there are bad 6-storeys there are also bad highrises. It will be renovated at some future date into something more desirable. For the present moment, let it go.
 
The colors and height make it harder to ignore, but yeah, it's not in a prominent location downtown or anything so its not worth losing too much sleep over
 
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Has any demo commenced on these units?
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So, a friend of mine called Prairie Demolition (the company doing the demos for Holyrood Gardens) back on November 11 and according to them, they sent demo permits to the city four months ago (July), but they still haven't heard back from the city. The next day, my friend sent a message to the councillor for the Metis Ward where the Holyrood Gardens is located. The reply was a somewhat boilerplate answer which including "send[ing the] inquiry to city staff in Development Services for an answer."

So here's a kicker...

There was this permit issued in March 27, which the councillor did point out.
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But recently, I checked again, and what do I see...
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And the biggest kicker? This new permit is dated November 12, the same day my friend sent a message to the councillor!

There's probably more permits required, because as of now, only two permits (one issued, one in intake review) would give permission for a combined 11 buildings, less than the total of 17 buildings slated for demolition. (Perhaps it's only one more permit.)

Still, the funniest thing is that it took a phone call and a message to the councillor for the city to get back to work. There's definitely something to be said about how a slow bureaucracy can impede development, even if it is development of sites infamous for crime and disorder! You just have to see the old BMO bank demolition for proof.
 
fromtraintotower said:
So, a friend of mine called Prairie Demolition (the company doing the demos for Holyrood Gardens) back on November 11 and according to them, they sent demo permits to the city four months ago (July), but they still haven't heard back from the city. The next day, my friend sent a message to the councillor for the Metis Ward where the Holyrood Gardens is located. The reply was a somewhat boilerplate answer which including "send[ing the] inquiry to city staff in Development Services for an answer."

So here's a kicker...

There was this permit issued in March 27, which the councillor did point out.
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But recently, I checked again, and what do I see...
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And the biggest kicker? This new permit is dated November 12, the same day my friend sent a message to the councillor!

There's probably more permits required, because as of now, only two permits (one issued, one in intake review) would give permission for a combined 11 buildings, less than the total of 17 buildings slated for demolition. (Perhaps it's only one more permit.)

Still, the funniest thing is that it took a phone call and a message to the councillor for the city to get back to work. There's definitely something to be said about how a slow bureaucracy can impede development, even if it is development of sites infamous for crime and disorder! You just have to see the old BMO bank demolition for proof.
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It's my hope that once these are demolished, Regency sells Holyrood Gardens to a few competent developers who proceed to erect a mini-city called Holyrood with various midrise infill lots and enough retail for a grocer, a cafe and a restaurant/pub.
 
fromtraintotower said:
So, a friend of mine called Prairie Demolition (the company doing the demos for Holyrood Gardens) back on November 11 and according to them, they sent demo permits to the city four months ago (July), but they still haven't heard back from the city. The next day, my friend sent a message to the councillor for the Metis Ward where the Holyrood Gardens is located. The reply was a somewhat boilerplate answer which including "send[ing the] inquiry to city staff in Development Services for an answer."

So here's a kicker...

There was this permit issued in March 27, which the councillor did point out.
View attachment 696047

But recently, I checked again, and what do I see...
View attachment 696048

And the biggest kicker? This new permit is dated November 12, the same day my friend sent a message to the councillor!

There's probably more permits required, because as of now, only two permits (one issued, one in intake review) would give permission for a combined 11 buildings, less than the total of 17 buildings slated for demolition. (Perhaps it's only one more permit.)

Still, the funniest thing is that it took a phone call and a message to the councillor for the city to get back to work. There's definitely something to be said about how a slow bureaucracy can impede development, even if it is development of sites infamous for crime and disorder! You just have to see the old BMO bank demolition for proof.
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Probably utilities being dealt with behind the scenes, no? Usually, gas, etc, has to be disconnected before demolition. Given the number of buildings etc, perhaps it took ATCO a while to do. Do permits not get created when the applicant submits to the city? Sounds like the scope changed in the new DP, which would likely lead to another disconnect. The city isn't perfect; it's a giant organization, after all, but this sounds like something where there are two sides to the story, and you've left out a lot of context from one side. Development often takes a considerable amount of time, as numerous parties are involved, not just the city--even demolition.
 
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