Aaron_Lloyd
Active Member
How on Earth is it 'devoid of empathy' to suggest we spread out the burden of hosting these services? I'm genuinely confused by your post.
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Whattagame
Active Member
"I get some have mental setbacks, but many are substance abusers that are constantly trying to find a way to scam the system."
This sentence is a common way to disregard and discard those suffering from addiction. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting the post, but it sure reads like a lot of people on the street are undeserving of the benevolence of the normies.
Stevey_G
Active Member
Solving homelessness in Alberta is a generational challenge that is going to take us decades if we begin to tackle it right now and it's going to take a multi-faceted approach at targetting the triggers:
Takeaways
- A majority of the homeless population is represented by Natives, approximately 48%. The fact that a visible minority utterly dominates the numbers in this way lead me to believe that it has to do with all of the different traumas associated with the colonization of N.A., the residential schools, and the general loss of home felt by this group over the past century.
- Edmonton is a migrational centre for the homeless and mentally ill. It is seldom discussed, but many communities who do not have the ability, funding, or general want to take care of their local homeless will often bus the problem to Edmonton. The homeless themselves will come to Edmonton because that is where the resources they need are
- Transitional homelessness is a thing too. Approximately - 8 to 9000 people experience transitional homeless due to loss of job or housing affordability issues. Fun fact, I was one of these people when I was out of work and couldn't afford the mortgage, fees, and taxes on the condo I lived in. I was forced to rent it out and live in my work truck doing deployment work for nearly 2 years. I built up enough capital to go back to school and eventually landed a 180k a year job, but I personally experienced the lack of resources and support these people face. You really are on your own to fix your shit.
- Mental health, drug addiction, and traumas - often a mixture of the three that compound on thenselves whilst living on the street.
Takeaways
- Foster and encourage mutual economic development with indigenous communities across the province. Help build out their social and economic infrastructure and help make these communities self-sustaining. Funding for many communities must be subject to accountability on the allocation of resource investment. It's no secret there is corruption within many communities leadership groups and protections must be put in place against misappropriation of funds.
- Build out small scale, decentralized support services across the towns and cities of the province. This will require investment and direction from all three levels of government. For homeless with greater special needs, see that they get moved to a facility that can properly tend to and treat their needs.
- Make it a crime to relocate your homeless without briefing the city of your intentions. The relocation if approved, required a brief assessment of the person's needs and where they will be dropped off - higher needs require being brought to a facility for further assessment
- DROP - HOUSING - COSTS. Ban Airbnbs, tax breaks on secondary suites, facilitate laws that force REITs and wealthy families to sell off their assets and cap the amount of land (non agricultural) that a single family, corporation, or trust can own. Facilitate a provincial carbon tax that is rebated to Canadians at tax time to offset their increased utility costs experienced over the past several years. Look at overhauling the insurance system. Increase the corporate tax rate and institute a municipal sales tax of 1% to pay for homeless housing initiatives.
- Improved short term transitional housing accomodations. This one's for the victims of abuse leaving their partners, those who lose their homes suddenly, and loss of employment. This program needs to be swift, and requires a letter from a former employer, police officer, etc. Funding is immediate but also capped as 1000 dollars to provide one weeks worth of hotel or one month of short term rental.
- Hospitalization. This one's touchy, but if someone one the street is exhibiting signs of schizophrenia, we need to start looking at them as a dependent of society. I'm not talking about revisiting asylums, but basically building facilities where they can be taken to, observed, and given the treatment they need. In some cases, long term hospitalization and treatment may be required for their good and for the good of society. Said facility should be built with HEAVY consultation from neuroscientists, psychologists, and therapists for the comfort and well being of the patient.
Whattagame
Active Member
Thankfully we have provincial leadership that will get right on that, right after they're done shutting down children's hospice care.
Stevey_G
Active Member
Yeah…I tend to think of myself as a right leaning centrist and a bit of a pragmatist myself. But I could never get behind that Frankenstein party Alberta voted in. I wish the NDP got another chance because they really caught me off guard with how sensibly they ran the province during lean years. I thought they needed more time to see their big ideas not get crushed and come to fruition.
But we reap what we sew. Maybe Albertans have finally had enough of corporate handouts to profitable corporations, maybe people are now a bit more concerned about their water quality then they are consumed by fear mongering and emotional voting.
Gronk!
Senior Member
Gronk!
Senior Member
'It's a beautiful space': Boyle Street secures permit for new location, despite community outcry
After having its development permit revoked amid public backlash, the leader of Boyle Street Community Services says the agency has a green light to move to a better building.
Boyle Street Community Services moves forward with downtown support centre - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca
The centre can now move forward with it's construction phase after receiving development permits and reaching 80 per cent of the project's funding goal.
globalnews.ca
IanO
Superstar
Inevitable and hopefully an improvement for all involved.
Edmcowboy11
Senior Member
Well I hope that this new center will be a positive and I will be curious to see what happens in the former location. Will we see new development for ice district north sooner than later?
MacLac
Senior Member
As in “break ground” on the Village the second the new facility opens in conjunction with Boyles date with a wrecking ball…..yes please
David A
Senior Member
Finally good sense seems to be prevailing.'It's a beautiful space': Boyle Street secures permit for new location, despite community outcry
After having its development permit revoked amid public backlash, the leader of Boyle Street Community Services says the agency has a green light to move to a better building.edmonton.ctvnews.ca
Boyle Street Community Services moves forward with downtown support centre - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca
The centre can now move forward with it's construction phase after receiving development permits and reaching 80 per cent of the project's funding goal.
BASE
Active Member
Could be sooner with the empty parking lots getting underway once the new facility breaks ground and they are 100% confident in the move. Question is what is the latest vision for the area north of the arena.
MacLac
Senior Member
Sooner would be better…..think they would start on the Village before the new facility opens?
Gronk!
Senior Member
New Boyle Street centre approved for construction in central Edmonton - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca
The centre will not be a shelter, but will provide services to clients in the downtown area, according to Boyle Street Community Services.
globalnews.ca
IanO
Superstar
- Boyle Street Community Services announced that the city’s subdivision appeal board has upheld its development permit for the new King Thunderbird Centre, also called okimaw peyesew kamik, at 107A Avenue and 101 Street. Executive director Jordan Reiniger said the agency has addressed issues with its previous permit, which had been revoked, and was able to negotiate conditions with members of the surrounding community that satisfied their concerns. In late May, Reiniger explained at a hearing that the facility will deliver health-related services to people but will not be a shelter. Boyle Street says it has successfully reached 80% of its fundraising goal for the project without government support - Taproot