[constance_chlore]

Elon Musk is more evil than Mark Zuckerberg.

Oh yeah, but xAI is a joke in my book.

 

[davidspradling]

It is, and there's a good chance the data center boom fizzles out before this one's even finished. I don't see any reason to encourage data center construction locally—it brings a temporary influx of jobs and some tax revenue, but it really doesn't do much for the community long-term. Meta is also (in my opinion) uniquely evil among the major AI players; they're going all-in on AI boyfriends/girlfriends and slop videos and all that.









I was reading about this over coffee this morning and, not gonna lie, checked my 1win casino account right after just out of habit.

I’m not a cheerleader for server barns, but blanket ''no thanks'' feels like we’re giving up leverage. Edmonton actually has a couple of built-in advantages for this stuff. Cold air most of the year, industrial land with substation access, and a grid that keeps adding wind/solar so if one is coming, the play is to tie it to concrete conditions: closed loop water or air cooling, heat recovery to a neighbour, local fibre ring upgrades, and a training pipeline for ops techs.
Jobs aren’t huge, true, but the property tax is steady and the electrical upgrades don’t disappear if a tenant changes; worst case, another operator takes the shell. I don’t care if it’s Meta or WhoeverCo the covenant should be about power, water, noise, and community benefits, not brand vibes. If council hands out incentives with no strings, that’s on us. If they force a good CBA and hard caps, a data centre can be a tolerable anchor in an industrial park.

 

[bodsbods9090]

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This is the plant out by the airport, right?

 

[MacLac]

Yup

 

[Glenco]

I’m not a cheerleader for server barns, but blanket ''no thanks'' feels like we’re giving up leverage. Edmonton actually has a couple of built-in advantages for this stuff. Cold air most of the year, industrial land with substation access, and a grid that keeps adding wind/solar so if one is coming, the play is to tie it to concrete conditions: closed loop water or air cooling, heat recovery to a neighbour, local fibre ring upgrades, and a training pipeline for ops techs.
Jobs aren’t huge, true, but the property tax is steady and the electrical upgrades don’t disappear if a tenant changes; worst case, another operator takes the shell. I don’t care if it’s Meta or WhoeverCo the covenant should be about power, water, noise, and community benefits, not brand vibes. If council hands out incentives with no strings, that’s on us. If they force a good CBA and hard caps, a data centre can be a tolerable anchor in an industrial park.

We will gladly take their money

 

[MacLac]

“……..launching a state of the art bio manufacturing facility in Alberta…..”

YEG company so Andrew is polite and represents all of AB, but surely it will be built in YEG.

 

[TAS]

“……..launching a state of the art bio manufacturing facility in Alberta…..”

YEG company so Andrew is polite and represents all of AB, but surely it will be built in YEG.

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It's already built, operating and full of fruit fly protein on the Future Fields site on 105Ave and 112St (the blue warehouse immediately north of their brick office). It doesn't look like much on the outside, but it's quite the operation inside.

 

[EdmTrekker]

I hope that if 3 billion of product is reached and the drug is manufactured here as the article implies this is reflected in our Edmonton GDP.

“Vimy Pharma has raised millions from investors, including K2 & Associates Investment Management Inc. and plans to manufacture the drug domestically, partnering with Applied Pharmaceutical Innovation API in Edmonton, which received $98 million in government investment.”

‘The potential is phenomenal’: Drug maker Vimmy Pharma plans to produce made-in-Canada, generic version of Ozempic

Canadian company Vimy Pharma aims to produce a generic version of blockbuster drug Ozempic to provide an affordable option for health-conscious consumers in the country.

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

 

[IanO]

Tech employment growth 2021-2024.

 

[MacLac]

Tech employment growth 2021-2024.
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Funny how we’re exactly half of YYC…..who cares….majority of their “tech” jobs go something like this, “thank you for calling Neo Financial….how may I help you today?”

 

[archited]

Yes, there is not much discernment in the quality of the tech jobs which almost makes the survey meaningless.

 

[MacLac]

The YYC Tech Job propaganda machine is working OT since their economy is so much fragile and unbalanced than ours….its actually quite sad seeing them rest their laurels on call centre jobs that pay barely a min wage. They are taking advantage of newly minted citizens and cheap as borscht DT real estate in abandoned buildings……

 

[IanO]

These comments are exactly why Edmonton is where/what it is.

Alas.

 

[David A]

Yes, there is not much discernment in the quality of the tech jobs which almost makes the survey meaningless.

Good point, it is not just the number of jobs but the quality of them that also matters and if a places numbers are boosted by lots of call centre or other such jobs, then they may not be as good as they appear.

I would welcome a more rigorous survey or analysis of the type of jobs counted, so we could come to a better conclusion on this.

 

[Glenco]

Regardless the fact Edmonton declined is very concerning given we have one of the best research programs in the country for machine learning.