dunno
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Probably because this is a male-dominated space.
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Probably because this is a male-dominated space.
northlands
Senior Member
Very much so unfortunately, this was actually talked about at both SRC Edmonton meet ups lol
David A
Senior Member
I don't feel generalized discussions comparing us with someones impressions of other cities are that productive. It feels like excessive navel gazing, or a lengthy high school discussion that is less important than it seems about which girl or guy is the prettiest/most handsome.
There are things other places have, we do not and probably can not have. For instance, much about the character of Halifax is based on its harbour location and naval history. Size is also a factor - we are probably not going to have the same amenities as a city twice as as large or five times larger as us. Of course some of those places may have drawbacks too (congestion, unaffordability, prone to earthquakes, floods or uncomfortably high temperatures, etc...) that can be overlooked by those that only see the great things there.
I feel this sort of discussion is only useful if you can take something specific from elsewhere that is nice or good and successfully replicate it here to enhance things.
There are things other places have, we do not and probably can not have. For instance, much about the character of Halifax is based on its harbour location and naval history. Size is also a factor - we are probably not going to have the same amenities as a city twice as as large or five times larger as us. Of course some of those places may have drawbacks too (congestion, unaffordability, prone to earthquakes, floods or uncomfortably high temperatures, etc...) that can be overlooked by those that only see the great things there.
I feel this sort of discussion is only useful if you can take something specific from elsewhere that is nice or good and successfully replicate it here to enhance things.
Kosy123
Active Member
September 2023 Rentals.ca Report
rentals.ca
Edmonton's now at a Y/Y change of 18.6% for 1 BD rents. I'm not too sure if that stat will lead to more interest for MFH construction since I'm not as well knowledgeable on the details for (and if) there's a delay between price signals and increased construction interest.
David A
Senior Member
We actually already have a quite impressive river valley park system, which I think some people who live downtown here use quite a bit. I suppose Calgary has the mountains and hour to an hour and a half away or Nose Hill and Fish Creek parks for people in more suburban areas. Of course we also already have Elk Island National Park nearby, a proposed Provincial Park in the south west potentially happening and a possibly larger National Urban Park somewhere also potentially happening. So, I feel both places offer fairly good options for nature focused lifestyles.
Edmonton and Calgary have been growing for the last decade at fairly similar rates, I believe as both grow they will offer more of a bigger city life style attractive to people not just looking for affordability, although affordability is what is driving some of the growth now and probably will for at least a few more years.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Does anyone have a sense of how Edmonton’s success with secondary suites (garage, basement), suburban density, etc have impact our downtown rentals/condos?
I would imagine in some cities with less secondary options in cheaper burbs, that pushes more people looking for smaller units into the core. Any chance we’ve somewhat hurt ourselves by the success of gentle density in burbs?
Rosenthal and griesbach leading the city for garage suites for example comes to mind.
Oilers99
Active Member
yes this has an impact and secondly b/c of employment not being focused downtown it further assists the suburban market.
IanO
Superstar
Elk Island is nice, the river valley can be fantastic, but having now lived in Alberta's playground for over 2.5 years, the reality is that Calgary is far more attractive if you ski/board, bike, hike, climb etc. and that honestly drives a lot of highly educated, professionals working class people to move and live there. The outdoor lifestyle and accessibility to the Bow Valley for day trips should not be underestimated; let alone the impact and delta for tourism drivers, hotels, conferences and ultimately direct flights. I'm sure we all have similar stories, but I've literally had dozens of friends move from Edmonton to Calgary because of the proximity to the mountains AND greater career advancement opportunities. This continues to drive their real estate market, is why they have 5-10x the number of residential projects u/c in the core and why the delta continues to widen.
The bigger question is how to reposition Edmonton to make it more attractive, drive investment and continue to make central Edmonton an attractive, vibrant and more urban space with destination food/bev, festivals and cultural facilities. It's well-known that Edmonton is a 'blue collar', gov't, suburban node town with a good educational system and cheap housing, but does that make it an attractive place to relocate to? Will housing affordability drive the economy, spur an investment/capital influx and is the location/climate something people can overcome to create roots?
I'm genuinely curious to see where Edmonton 'goes' in the next 2-3 years and whether or not it carves out its own little niche of attractiveness or if it continues to lag and competes with the Regina's, Saskatoon's, Winnipeg's of the world.
occidentalcapital
Senior Member
Very simple we just need a direct highway to Nordegg area. From south Edmonton it's about 200km diagonally, so maybe an hour and a half of driving? We're closer to the mountains than we think, it's just that the road network doesn't allow a direct drive. Even better add rail and create our own mountain resort there.
Gronk!
Senior Member
The Edmonton-Jasper route needs to be upgraded in the short term and long term to help reduce what can be perceived as a 3.5 hour boring drive.
- major tourism upgrades for Wabamun, Seba Beach, Chip Lake, Obed Summit and the Pembina River near Entwistle
- twin the Yellowhead from Highway 40 to the Jasper park gate, the rest of it is up to Parks Canada
- build bypasses for Edson, Hinton and Gainford
- daily express VIA Rail route that is unhindered by freight traffic
- HSR
- major tourism upgrades for Wabamun, Seba Beach, Chip Lake, Obed Summit and the Pembina River near Entwistle
- twin the Yellowhead from Highway 40 to the Jasper park gate, the rest of it is up to Parks Canada
- build bypasses for Edson, Hinton and Gainford
- daily express VIA Rail route that is unhindered by freight traffic
- HSR
occidentalcapital
Senior Member
Longer article on office conversions
storeys.com
In Edmonton, An Industry Eagerly Awaits The Second Coming Of Office Conversions
After Councillor Andrew Knack introduced a motion earlier this year, the outline of Edmonton's office conversion incentive program is expected to be unveiled in the coming weeks.
storeys.com
Avenuer
Senior Member
Yup, Nordegg is not that far as the crow flies. From Keswick in SW Edmonton it is only 190 km to Coliseum Mountain outside of Nordegg:
IanO
Superstar
Councillor Cartmell chimes in on housing.
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So, where to next? I believe it is time that we tackle this problem head-on by:
-Increasing housing supply citywide and not driving up the cost of shelter through new regulations or policy barriers.
-Proactively attracting new business investment opportunities to grow our prosperity and ultimately strengthen the economic picture for Edmonton and our region.
-Better co-ordinating public- and private-sector infrastructure investments to deliver priority projects on time, budget, and scope.
-Delivering and maintaining core municipal services well, and;
-Showing leadership by focusing on the conversations that matter most to Edmontonians’ daily lives.
edmontonjournal.com
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So, where to next? I believe it is time that we tackle this problem head-on by:
-Increasing housing supply citywide and not driving up the cost of shelter through new regulations or policy barriers.
-Proactively attracting new business investment opportunities to grow our prosperity and ultimately strengthen the economic picture for Edmonton and our region.
-Better co-ordinating public- and private-sector infrastructure investments to deliver priority projects on time, budget, and scope.
-Delivering and maintaining core municipal services well, and;
-Showing leadership by focusing on the conversations that matter most to Edmontonians’ daily lives.
Tim Cartmell: How Edmonton can avert a housing crisis
Edmonton city councillor Tim Cartmell weighs in on how the city can ensure adequate housing supply.
edmontonjournal.com
Avenuer
Senior Member
All things that have been talked about for years, nothing new here folks.Councillor Cartmell chimes in on housing.
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So, where to next? I believe it is time that we tackle this problem head-on by:
-Increasing housing supply citywide and not driving up the cost of shelter through new regulations or policy barriers.
-Proactively attracting new business investment opportunities to grow our prosperity and ultimately strengthen the economic picture for Edmonton and our region.
-Better co-ordinating public- and private-sector infrastructure investments to deliver priority projects on time, budget, and scope.
-Delivering and maintaining core municipal services well, and;
-Showing leadership by focusing on the conversations that matter most to Edmontonians’ daily lives.
Tim Cartmell: How Edmonton can avert a housing crisis
Edmonton city councillor Tim Cartmell weighs in on how the city can ensure adequate housing supply.
David A
Senior Member
It is unfortunate the distance to Jasper and the more severe restrictions on development vs. Banff. While it is a long drive, Hinton has a lot of potential to be developed as a tourist destination and it is a bit closer to Edmonton. Also other towns along the route need to do more with tourism upgrades to make traveling west from here more interesting. I have driven this route quite a few times and there are a number of nice small communities particularly between here and Edson, so it does not have to be a long boring drive. I think in the focus to get to Jasper a lot in between has been over looked.
For a country that talks endlessly about rail service, our current western rail service is sort of sad joke. It really needs to be improved with more frequency and other changes. For instance, the VIA station in Edmonton is not well located.
The Nordegg route idea is good also. While we can't move the mountains closer, I like these all of these more more positive ideas.