[archited]

Gene Dub -- architect for Encore -- is actually very good at proportionality for high-rise living spaces. And he has the task of designing Alldritt's Wunderturm so I would expect the condos/apartments/hotel rooms to be very livable.

 

[MetroEd]

As I have said over and over the size of this project needs to stay intact because of the extensive footings required -- there will be no change in the scope and scale.

So how deep do you suppose they’ll have to put the support pilons for a 280 meter behemoth?

 

[Stevey_G]

So how deep do you suppose they’ll have to put the support pilons for a 280 meter behemoth?

Definitely into bedrock.

 

[soupcrate]

Definitely into bedrock.

You can't dig into bedrock, not even with a diamond pickaxe.

 

[archited]

About 1/3 of the height above ground or 90-plus meters

 

[Stevey_G]

You can't dig into bedrock, not even with a diamond pickaxe.

lol. Maybe not dig, but you can anchor a foundation to bedrock in a few different ways. In seriousness not sure if that's the case here.

Considering it's in a slide area and in an area with poor geological integrity, I'm guessing the building will require an extensive piling system. Probably 150 meters deep with each pile 1-1.5 meters wide.

It'll be unprecedented for Edmonton, that's for sure.

 

[MetroEd]

Getting excited at the possibility of seeing shovels in the ground with this hopefully sooner than later !!

 

[NateTheUrbanist]

I just hope it's proposed 80-storey height can be kept.

 

[The_Cat]

I think that the Aldritt dig will have to consider the slope stability of the North Saskatchewan River, especially if there old coal mines in proximity to the location. I believe Grierson Hill was dug up to correct for slope stability around 1995.

 

[The_Cat]

Looks like a significant portion of the mines have been remediated, when the Grierson Hill was stabilized.

 

[David A]

Hospitality loans are going to be a lot easier in 2023 since we’ve been back to normal for almost a year now and it’s proven that tourism is returning. With the proposed Hyatt hotel on Jasper turning into apartments there’s still demand for another hotel on Jasper Ave. I hope when it comes to residences they can design them better than sky residences. Legends condos did a good job and that’s why the Jw and Encore are a lot more bright than stantec. People have that kind of money here it’s just not like Toronto where you buy what’s available and are satisfied. Here people can get something a lot nicer for the same price range. Which means you have to put actual quality in their designs. Im assuming during this waiting time they’ve been watching what’s gone right and what’s gone wrong with these new buildings downtown.

I think this is correct, there is a market for it here, but it also needs to be done well. Unlike some places, people here are not going to pay premium prices for something that is not.

JW and Stantec have a very good location, but this building would have even better views which would appeal to some. There aren't too many locations available any more with such river valley views.

 

[Clearshades]

3 blocks away. In other cities, this would still be considered as the very CBD core.

 

[The_Cat]

The.CN Tower and Rogers Centre started out as some distance from Toronto’s downtown core.

 

[IanO]

The CN Tower would also be considered 'a bit out of the CBD', same with EPCOR... one of its biggest criticisms. This has less of a base in actuality versus perception due to having to walk outside a couple of blocks in your suit during winter.

But all of this has shifted with Stantec, for Manulife used to the epicentre.

 

[The_Cat]

The.CN Tower and Rogers Centre started out as some distance from Toronto’s downtown core.

Sorry IanO,, I meant Toronto's CN Tower and Skydome. Both of those were built on the edge of Toronto's downtown.

I do agree with Rogers Place/Ice District being the core of downtown.