What do you think of this project?

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thefreezebreeze said:
Its just kinda weird that in order to increase the parks budget, you'd prefer to take money away from the small amount going to cycling paths than the large amount going to roads. Seems like you're focused on making things worse for cycling rather than making anything else better.
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It's weird that you think that I'm the only person who believes commuter bike paths are over funded.
 
Out of Towner said:
My position is that I'd rather have more of the City's budget dedicated to park space than commuter cycling paths. Your rage and chastising reply didn't change my mind, so I guess you're correct there.
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Of course it wouldn't change your mind... Logic and common sense ain't your forte, even if someone explains the flaw in your "logic" like you're 5.
 
Is this a "choice" matter? Right now Edmonton is clearly an automobile city (not unlike many other cities in Canada or, more largely, North America). Trend-lining... cars in the urban context are getting greener and more compact that over time will allow roads to become less space-consuming (hell, there are already countless experiments currently with flying passenger vehicles -- maybe someday roads will be altogether obsolete). I think this tango over "choice" is a bit overblown -- it ignores the possibility of change in a direction that is currently unforeseen. It seems that we should all be able to commute (whether for business, pleasure, or other) in the means most suited to our desires and needs. In my business I need a car if I want to be able to visit a development site that is miles/kilometers distant.. If I want to go for a stroll then I need a sidewalk or footpath. If I want some form of exercise then maybe I'll climb on a bicycle and take a path suited to that mode. The apportionment of mode-conveniences are certainly out of balance currently but there is no reason to lose hope that, with all things urban, that will right itself over time. I really don't see the need for anyone to light their own (or someone else's) hair on fire over this discussion.
 
Out of Towner said:
And the operating budget? That expands as the capital budget expands. It still comes down to elected officials prioritizing certain projects over others.
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Much like the other 98% increases the operating budget.

That’s how governing works, it is unfortunate when it doesn’t always go the way you think it should, but that doesn’t mean it’s the wrong choice.
 
constance_chlore said:
Well, there weren't enough of you to win elections.
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Cyclists would probably lose some funding for bike lanes if a plebiscite on it was held. Aside from that, is there a valid reason why cyclists deem bicycle registrations as unnecessary? For one thing, bicycle registrations would assist the police in returning lost or stolen bicycles to their rightful owners. Secondly, registration would benefit cyclists because city administrators can't accurately plan out the most convenient or highest volume routes for cyclists when they only know the aggregate number of cyclists in the City. AI could easily determine that if the areas of greatest concentration of bicycle ownership in the City was know. So why the opposition to registration? Is it the fee?
 
Out of Towner said:
For one thing, bicycle registrations would assist the police in returning lost or stolen bicycles to their rightful owners. Secondly, registration would benefit cyclists because city administrators can't accurately plan out the most convenient or highest volume routes for cyclists when they only know the aggregate number of cyclists in the City
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1. Already exists
2. Census data
 
Out of Towner said:
I don't remember the last census asking me if I owned a bicycle. Police don't know that I own a bicycle either.
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Commuting Reference Guide, Census of Population, 2021

This reference guide provides information to help users effectively use and interpret commuting data from the 2021 Census. This guide contains definitions and explanations of concepts, questions, classifications, data quality and comparability with other sources for this topic.
www12.statcan.gc.ca www12.statcan.gc.ca
 
Out of Towner said:
Cyclists would probably lose some funding for bike lanes if a plebiscite on it was held. Aside from that, is there a valid reason why cyclists deem bicycle registrations as unnecessary? For one thing, bicycle registrations would assist the police in returning lost or stolen bicycles to their rightful owners. Secondly, registration would benefit cyclists because city administrators can't accurately plan out the most convenient or highest volume routes for cyclists when they only know the aggregate number of cyclists in the City. AI could easily determine that if the areas of greatest concentration of bicycle ownership in the City was know. So why the opposition to registration? Is it the fee?
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I think the vast majority of people don't want yet another fee/tax. We have more then enough already.
 
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