[David A]

Isnt he dead?

Lorne, is what I feel could be called fact adjacent. He does have an agenda and does spin things to fit his agenda whether it really fits well or not.

First of all like usual he throws everything in here, like bridge closures which are not really related and temporary (and all not happening at once, which of course he also neglects to mention).

Second, he is still going on about that city wide average transit use decline as if it is the most relevant statistic, it is not. Somebody who has moved to a far away new suburban area may not use transit and it may not even be available there yet. The more relevant statistic is transit use in the areas served where the bus lanes are being implemented, which I suspect is much higher and may have even increased.

Like an old man shouting at clouds, I suspect his war against transit and other things will continue until he is gone.

 

[TAS]

I came across this poster today. So then I looked up this info - the streetcar utilization was impressive. Does anyone know where "this corner" was located that's noted in the poster? Was it Jasper Ave and 101st?

The radial railway reached its greatest extent in 1920, with six full lines and two stub lines serving almost all sections of the city, and totaling 90.4 kilometres (56.2 mi) in length. The railway's busiest confirmed year of service was in 1929, during-which it served approximately 14.1 million passengers; Edmonton had approximately 74,000 residents at the time.

 

[CplKlinger]

I came across this poster today. So then I looked up this info - the streetcar utilization was impressive. Does anyone know where "this corner" was located that's noted in the poster? Was it Jasper Ave and 101st?

View attachment 638744

The radial railway reached its greatest extent in 1920, with six full lines and two stub lines serving almost all sections of the city, and totaling 90.4 kilometres (56.2 mi) in length. The railway's busiest confirmed year of service was in 1929, during-which it served approximately 14.1 million passengers; Edmonton had approximately 74,000 residents at the time.

Where did you see this poster? Is it by any chance something you can buy?

You're right, the booth was at Jasper Ave and 101 St., on the south side of the intersection.

Here's a picture of the booth, with the sign up top (source)

Here's a shot of 101 St looking north, toward Jasper Ave, with the booth visible near the left of the picture (source)

This booth was actually an important space for the Edmonton Radial Railway: Inspectors were stationed there to monitor service performance and rule adherence (i.e., they made sure that streetcars didn't speed), tickets were sold there, and people could call if they had questions or concerns—the phone number was 6444. Its importance is emphasized in a response to concerns raised by local business owners about its placement in the middle of the street.

In a move that could very well be expected today, the local business owners were unsatisfied with that response, and signed a petition to have it removed—citing property values and impact on businesses.

In the end, the ERR was able to replace it by renting space in the nearby Selkirk Hotel. In later years, you could reach the ERR/ETS staff there by phoning 71056.

 

[TAS]

Where did you see this poster? Is it by any chance something you can buy?

You're right, the booth was at Jasper Ave and 101 St., on the south side of the intersection.

Here's a picture of the booth, with the sign up top (source)
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Here's a shot of 101 St looking north, toward Jasper Ave, with the booth visible near the left of the picture (source)
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This booth was actually an important space for the Edmonton Radial Railway: Inspectors were stationed there to monitor service performance and rule adherence (i.e., they made sure that streetcars didn't speed), tickets were sold there, and people could call if they had questions or concerns—the phone number was 6444. Its importance is emphasized in a response to concerns raised by local business owners about its placement in the middle of the street.
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In a move that could very well be expected today, the local business owners were unsatisfied with that response, and signed a petition to have it removed—citing property values and impact on businesses.
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In the end, the ERR was able to replace it by renting space in the nearby Selkirk Hotel. In later years, you could reach the ERR/ETS staff there by phoning 71056.
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Wow, thanks for sharing that history.

I saw it on the wall in the new bookstore along 99st - Porch Light Books. Cool place.

Porch Light Books

Used and new bookshop in Edmonton, Alberta. A real nice one, too!

www.porchlightbooks.ca

Was part of a 12km walk this morning - latte at Cafe Bicyclette, pastry at Little Brick, bowl of soup ($17) at Dogpatch and then the bookstore.

 

[YEG Bus Rider]

ETS offering more bus trips, expanded airport service and other improvements in 2025

 

[BrettB]

Anyone remember the hack to see if new schedules have been posted? They usually make changes in April, don't they?

 

[YEG Bus Rider]

Anyone remember the hack to see if new schedules have been posted? They usually make changes in April, don't they?

Service changes are effective April 27.

Updated GTFS schedule data should be available soon.

 

[Gronk!]

Several central neighbourhoods to see on-demand buses replace regular service

Edmonton Transit Service is set to cancel regular bus service in three core neighbourhoods, primarily due to low ridership, and replace it with on-demand service.

edmonton.taproot.news

 

[YEG Bus Rider]

There will be some reductions to late night transit service (10pm-12am).

Route 106 will be reduced to 60 minutes (currently every 30 mins), last weekday trip from Dunvegan will terminate at Northgate instead of Belvedere. Last trip from Dunvegen on Saturday & Sunday is also cut due to schedule pattern change.

Weekday late evening service on routes 4, 8 & 9 will be reduced from 15 minutes to 20 minutes.

Route 8 - Sunday early evening service reduced from 15 mins to 20 mins in the eastbound University -> Abbottsfield direction.

 

[YEG Bus Rider]

Several central neighbourhoods to see on-demand buses replace regular service

Edmonton Transit Service is set to cancel regular bus service in three core neighbourhoods, primarily due to low ridership, and replace it with on-demand service.

edmonton.taproot.news

Those who make it work earn the privilege of more frequent service, above what Transit Service Standards Procedures recommends.

ETS took their time with deciding whether to replace fixed service with On Demand, including conversations with the ward councillors.

 

[supplanter]

Those who make it work earn the privilege of more frequent service, above what Transit Service Standards Procedures recommends.

ETS took their time with deciding whether to replace fixed service with On Demand, including conversations with the ward councillors.

I’m wondering for the Belgravia ODT, where is it gonna drop people off?

 

[YEG Bus Rider]

I’m wondering for the Belgravia ODT, where is it gonna drop people off?

University TC, Cross Cancer Institute.

 

[YEG Bus Rider]

Baturyn Neighbourhood and Alley Renewal Project - Transit Service Adjustments Information Sheet

Baturyn Transit Disruption Construction Presentation

On Demand is a solution but how about Saturday early evening? Saturday service starting at 8am? Sunday at 9am, ending 7pm? I don't think ETS even bothers to consider those time periods.

 

[Blizzard]

Baturyn Neighbourhood and Alley Renewal Project - Transit Service Adjustments Information Sheet

Baturyn Transit Disruption Construction Presentation

On Demand is a solution but how about Saturday early evening? Saturday service starting at 8am? Sunday at 9am, ending 7pm? I don't think ETS even bothers to consider those time periods.

Council effectively decides ODT operating hours as it's provided via a third party contract with Via (the app) and PWT (the buses). If Council decides they want ODT to operate longer on the weekends, that's their prerogative. You'd be horrified to know how little control ETS actually has over ODT.

There's plenty of stuff to blame ETS for but ODT is not one of them.

 

[YEG Bus Rider]

There's plenty of stuff to blame ETS for but ODT is not one of them.

Stony Plain Road Shuttle (repurposed DATS vehicles, within ETS operating budget) will be discontinued as of April 27.

Could those resources be used to offer some weekend morning/evening span of service (Eaux Claires - Castle Downs) outside of ODT hours that route 103 has in North Batuyrn/closer than walking to Castle Downs RD?

ETS was all about “transit is essential, we improved span of service” last year.

This year, 106 gets late evening span of service from Dunvegan adjusted to end sooner without any mention about whether it’s permanent or if it’s because construction detour kills ridership. I doubt memo to council and/or ETSAB Branch Highlights detailing service changes will mention anything.

That being said, 30 min late evening service on a local route is a privilege, not a right.