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Airboy said:
They are forcing his hand.
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With all these resignations, I feel it is becoming clearer the one person who really needs to resign, hasn't yet.

I hope the Liberal Cabinet and caucus will finally grow a backbone, because if not, it is also becoming clearer they are marching to political oblivion.
 
Interesting to see LeBlanc get her portfolio. His father Romeo used to babysit JT. I guess that’s another example of some things coming full circle
 
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kcantor said:
Interesting to see LeBlanc get her portfolio. His father Romeo used to babysit JT. I guess that’s another example of some things coming full circle
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Yes. LeBlanc is quite competent and capable, but I feel so too were his two predecessors. The problem with the current government is higher up.
 
David A said:
Maybe Carney is more politically naive than I expect, but this is like being offered a free ticket on the Titanic after it already hit the iceberg. If you accept, the ride will likely be short and unpleasant.
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I take that back. He'd be dumb to jump in now. Plus people have been saying he's gonna be in cabinet for 10 years and it hasn't happened.
 
Greenspace said:
I take that back. He'd be dumb to jump in now. Plus people have been saying he's gonna be in cabinet for 10 years and it hasn't happened.
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Carney seems to be this era's Hamlet for the Liberal Party, now that John Turner is gone and Paul Martin is retired, although both did eventually become PM's.

Although he doesn't have as much political experience as them, I wouldn't rule him out, but I don't think this is his moment now.
 
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I think Carney’s position today is similar to Poilievre’s at the Conservatives leadership election in 2020 and 2017. In both cases it was clear the country wasn’t yet ready to kick out the Liberals (and that is how we change governments, voting out rather than voting for) so Poilievre stayed in the sidelines and allowed others to be defeated.

Carney may well want to “server his country” as an MP but I don’t see him wasting his time in opposition and that’s what any elected Liberal MP will be after the next election if they’re lucky. If they’re not, they’ll end up sitting as a member of a rump party a la Kim Campbell’s Conservatives.
 
kcantor said:
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I think Carney’s position today is similar to Poilievre’s at the Conservatives leadership election in 2020 and 2017. In both cases it was clear the country wasn’t yet ready to kick out the Liberals (and that is how we change governments, voting out rather than voting for) so Poilievre stayed in the sidelines and allowed others to be defeated.

Carney may well want to “server his country” as an MP but I don’t see him wasting his time in opposition and that’s what any elected Liberal MP will be after the next election if they’re lucky. If they’re not, they’ll end up sitting as a member of a rump party a la Kim Campbell’s Conservatives.
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Being in opposition can be frustrating, particularly to those used to being a position where they call the shots, like Carney. Poilievre was young at the time, so had time on his side, Carney not as much now.

Of course compared to the current and incoming US Presidents, they are both youngsters! I suppose Carney can hope the wave of enthusiasm for the Conservatives is short lived, or people quickly forget why they dislike the Liberals so much now. So perhaps in a few years, it would still be doable.
 
I feel Carney has a lot of credibility with in business and economic circles, where the current Liberal government really struggles. Carney hasn't spent as much time outside of Canada as Ignatieff.

Maybe Trudeau should have brought Carney in as Finance Minister when Morneau left, but as they say hindsight is 20/20.
 

'I understand there's going to be a short runway,' new minister says after Trudeau shuffles cabinet​

http://ctvnews.ca/politics/4-minist...promoted-in-trudeau-cabinet-shuffle-1.7153105
Ontario MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith becomes Canada's next housing, infrastructure and communities minister, taking over for Sean Fraser, who announced on Monday that he wouldn't be running again.

And, taking over the public safety portfolio from Finance and Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc – who took on the top economic post on Monday after Chrystia Freeland's stunning resignation – is Ontario MP and current chair of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians (NSICOP) David McGuinty.

The other Liberal MPs who have joined cabinet are:

  • Quebec MP Rachel Bendayan, becoming Canada's official languages minister and associate minister of public safety.
  • Quebec MP Élisabeth Brière, becoming the minister of national revenue, taking over for Marie-Claude Bibeau who isn't running again.
  • Manitoba MP Terry Duguid, who becomes minister of sport and the minister responsible for Prairies Economic Development Canada.
  • Nova Scotia MP Darren Fisher, who is Canada's new minister of veterans affairs and associate defence minister.
  • Newfoundland and Labrador MP Joanne Thompson, taking on the minister of seniors title, which was a role handed off, after Seamus O'Regan left cabinet, and
  • Ontario MP and outgoing whip Ruby Sahota who picks up the democratic institutions portfolio and becomes the minister responsible for the Federal Economic Development Agency for Southern Ontario, a role outgoing minister Filomena Tassi held.
The current cabinet ministers moving into new, or amended positions are:

  • Anita Anand, who had been doing double duty as Treasury Board president and transport minister, is now the minister of transport and internal trade.
  • Gary Anandasangaree, who maintains his role as minister of Crown-Indigenous relations, picks up the northern affairs and Canadian Northern Economic Development Agency positions from Dan Vandal who isn't running again.
  • Steven MacKinnon, who keeps his job as labour minister but is also taking on the employment, workforce development and official languages role from Randy Boissonnault, who left cabinet last month to focus on clearing the allegations against him.
  • And, Ginette Petitpas Taylor becomes Canada's next Treasury Board president.https://edmonton.skyrisecities.com/forum/javascript:;
 
I'm not an aviation expert, but if the runway is too short doesn't that mean the plane fails to take off and crashes into something?

The NDP leader has already repeated they will be voting non confidence soon, so perhaps the runway is even getting shorter.

The Liberals ditherers are going to have to decide very soon if the PM stays or goes. And so far staying doesn't seem to have helped them.
 
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