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reaperexpress
Senior Member
The current service is scheduled to be 12 minutes slower than the Metrolinx plan. Even with a 10 minute reduction in schedule (~15 minute reduction vs actual travel times) it would still be slower than the original plan. Regardless of what Stuart Green says, the City and TTC should be aiming to achieve scheduled travel times about 10 minutes faster than today.
hw621
Senior Member
The root cause is the misalignment of public needs and the out-of-touch bureaucracy.
hawc
Senior Member
Kyle Campbell
Senior Member
Maybe it's a blessing. The shuttle bus makes the end to end run in 36 minutes
ZEBuilder
Active Member
Much of the justification for the speed is the amount of dedicated right of way and using existing rail corridors to their benefit.
When it leaves Fairway it immediately goes up on a bridge to cross Fairway and the CP tracks, before running on a very short stretch of the River Rd extension, then once it reaches Highway 8 and River it runs on a bridge (crossing the Grand River, Highway 8 off ramp, some ugly terrain) all the way to King St in Sportsworld, and then its at the next station. Then it runs centerline underneath the 401 before it goes on yet another bridge to cross the Shantz Hill/Fountain interchange and the Speed River, then you're at Preston Station.
Then once you leave Preston you cross King St (a different King St) and go back up on a bridge structure to cross a property entrance and a CP line, before it runs on a dedicated corridor (existing freight corridor) all the way to Pinebush.
Then you run along Hespeler where it will be centerline, before deviating into the rail corridor at the Delta and taking that all the way to Galt.
Phase 2 has something like 3km of bridges and only runs on the street along King, Hespeler and a very short stretch of River so it can fly much like it does in the existing train corridors.
Heading south approaching Hayward just has a weird signal block which causes the trains to slow way before they need to, when the ION originally opened they decided to open it while they were still figuring out kinks in the signalling system, they were having issues getting ATP to work but trains could operate under LOS with no issues so they did, once they figured ATP out and removed LOS in the dedicated corridors (Mill to Fairway, and Waterloo Park to Northfield) that the problem started, it happens at Hayward and around Erb in Waterloo. There's also not much that's able to be done unless the Region buys Graybar or the vacant land on Hayward to make a more gradual curve.
Obsidian
Active Member
The bus is MUCH faster and comes more frequent so service after 10pm is better without the LRT than before 10pm.
ssiguy2
Senior Member
This line should be 10 minutes faster than the bus and if it's not then this has been a shocking waste of money. I believe the original Transit City plan has this route going between 22-23km/hr. and if so then QP should demand Finch reach that goal or any further transit projects {ie those not under construction} should all be placed on hold. The province fulfilled it's financial obligations and hence the TTC/City should be honouring their operational ones and if they don't, there should be REAL financial consequences.
I hope Ford holds Chow's & Councillors' feet to the fire. I bet Dougie is as mad as a hatter right now. The line finally gets open and with the ribbon cutting, it should have been a political win and instead as turned into a fiasco and his gov't is getting a lot of the blame even though this is an operational issue which is 100% the domain of the City & TTC. His gov't is suffering from guilt by association and he has the right to be furious.
I hope Ford holds Chow's & Councillors' feet to the fire. I bet Dougie is as mad as a hatter right now. The line finally gets open and with the ribbon cutting, it should have been a political win and instead as turned into a fiasco and his gov't is getting a lot of the blame even though this is an operational issue which is 100% the domain of the City & TTC. His gov't is suffering from guilt by association and he has the right to be furious.
hw621
Senior Member
Maybe the TTC should slow the buses down so the LRT doesn't look so bad...
Amare
Senior Member
Dont give them ideas, they've already slowed down streetcars and subways compared to 10-15 years ago.
We don't need anymore idiocy from the clowns who operate that organization.
urbanclient
Active Member
Yes comrade @hw621 , good idea! The local people's commissar will be grateful for your suggestion and implement it expeditiously.
Johnny Au
Superstar
December 7, 2025:
Humber College Station:
Humber College Station:
yurt2022
New Member
We need Doug Ford to step in and remove operations responsibility from TTC and hire Alstom/Mosaic to operate this line.
We're not waiting to "Q1 2026" for staff to make a report that still doesn't get the line to advertised speeds (which might not even be implemented).
We're not waiting to "Q1 2026" for staff to make a report that still doesn't get the line to advertised speeds (which might not even be implemented).
Voltz
Senior Member
Humber College station should be covered over completely, having to clear snow from a below ground platform is just dumb.
That should have been the biggest issue with this line.
That should have been the biggest issue with this line.
Thaboss
Active Member
Best thing about line 6 is that it woke everyone up to TTCs operational incompetency. If this leads to true transit priority for line 5, 6 and many downtown street cars, I would pencil that on as an epic win and probably the best outcome possible lol.
Side point. I find the Finch west station to be very pleasant tbh.
Side point. I find the Finch west station to be very pleasant tbh.