[Urb]

Does anyone know what Centron is building in Marda Loop, beside cSpace?

 

[Stephen Ave]

Does anyone know what Centron is building in Marda Loop, beside cSpace?

@Urb I believe this is what you're referring to
https://calgary.skyrisecities.com/forum/threads/the-edward-10m-5s-section23.29195/#post-1388269

 

[AccUnit]

This one fell under the radar. 33 units from an unknown developer by the name of Groupe Denux. They have offices in Victoria, Montreal and France.

https://groupedenux.com/2018/07/mantra-marda-loop-condo-coming-soon-in-calgary/

Just took a run through the site and checked out the floor plans. They are fitting 12 units on floors 2 and 3, that's a tight layout!

 

[Surrealplaces]

IT has a mish mashed look to it.You're probably right that it won't be going ahead anytime soon, but it gives an idea of the scale they're going for.

 

[Platopos]

Found a couple images of another project by Arlington Street Investments that I think haven't been shared here. This ones called Royal Park, located between 7th/8th street on 17th ave (across Tomkins Park). Its 8 storeys, "main floor and second floor will consist of 58,000 sf of prime retail space, with floors 3-8 comprised of 102,000 SF of residential space." Im sure the final renderings will differ a bit, I don't think this one is going ahead anytime soon but worth the share.
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Ground-floor retail like this would fit much better along the avenues closer to the railroad(10th-13th). Though it's only 8 floors, the retail space isn't very human scale considering it looks a good 8-9 meters tall if not more and looks far too sleek for 17th ave.

 

[UrbanWarrior]

Since we no longer have the urban development thread I'll post this here. Was a very nice treat to see this underway at the 4 Street SW Underpass, as I'm certain it's going to be a beautiful piece when done!

 

[Mull]

I am confused, is this not the Urban development thread?
https://skyrisecities.com/forum/threads/calgary-general-urban-development-discussion.27153/page-88

 

[Beltline_B]

The more I see this reno work, the more I like it. Not big changes, but just enough to give the building a different look.

 

[Colinfill]

The more I see this reno work, the more I like it. Not big changes, but just enough to give the building a different look.

Looks even better at night with the new lighting!

 

[The Familia]

I like it too, although I would have used black window trim instead of the silver. Make it match the National trim.

 

[Mountain Man]

That actually looks pretty decent, better than I expected for sure.

 

[1875]

im not crazy about the silver, agree black is much better

 

[Surrealplaces]

Maybe ASI can spring for a sign change, and make the National sign silver instead? I like the silver look, but agree it's a bit awkward against the National. I'm guessing since the National is a tenant and could changer at some point, they aren't going to do much to coordinate the two colors.

 

[Silence&Motion]

The more I see this reno work, the more I like it. Not big changes, but just enough to give the building a different look.

I actually really like the silver. It gives the building a lighter look, as if the whole thing is held up by those brick columns. The contrast with the black National signage doesn't bother me. In fact the signage would look to bland if it blended in with the rest of the building.

 

[Calgcouver]

On these types of projects the city tends to act in such a way as to interpret its rules and regulations to maximize its own revenue and pass on as many City costs onto the builder as it can such as asphalt, curb, streetlight, storm upgrades, etc, so there is no way to make it affordable. If you guess the land cost at 3m, that would be about 125k per unit in its raw form. So you just look at the fixed costs and it gets frighteningly expensive.
land/door $125k
construction at say $175/ft so maybe $250k each depending on quality
soft costs @ some % of $6M - can't even guess but a lot
cost of financing, taxes, city fees - a lot
marketing/commission/gst at 9% of the total value of sales
I'd guess these need to be sold for 500k just for the builder to crack even. Compare that to what a half million gets you in a sprawl area...no comparison. A lot of the market would object to this type of row house and simply never buy it at any price. Hard to fit your diesel pickup and RV lifestyle into the inner city. The same builders that specialize in detached tract homes with tremendous productivity would be crushed by the challenge and complexity of this build, their staff just wouldn't be used to the high degree of management it would take to run that site effectively. Despite all these issues, building a dozen new communities is a giant leap in the wrong direction. We don't even have enough resources to update archaic and harmful ARPs that prevent the sort of changes you suggest need to happen, yet there is political will to raise taxes to fund sprawl? It does seem crazy.

Those numbers seem close. But $3M for a ~50x120ft corner lot? Seems high. I was finding functional MC-1 possibly MC-2 3 lot (~50x120ft) land assembly's walking distance to LRT in the SW for $3M. I feel like even $1-1.25M is a little rich for a single RC-G lot.