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Surrealplaces said:
Thanks for the updates O-tac. It feels like Seton's promised 'urban core' is starting to come together.
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It is starting to feel more urban. Even without perfect materials the form feels proper and the intersection is shaping up nicely. I’m actually happy that they scrapped the food hall for the proposed mixed use tower to finish off that intersection. I can’t think of too many places in the city with this kind of solid 4 corner coverage in mid and low rises.

I’m also curious to see the finished exterior of the 5 story Avalon block. I like the triangular windows.

Also really hope that Community Natural Foods does well as it is a fantastic urban mini market. I like it more than their other locations.
 
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O-tac said:
Let me guess, another UCP donor's private charter surgical facility? And located next to the Esso gas station off 24th just far enough from both Greenline train stations to be easily accessible by transit. This pisses me off. They should do an expansion of the SHC before this.
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Isn't this a private building used for medical services, which is the same for almost every non-hospital/AHS asset such as your family doctor office, dentist, any specialist clinic, etc. These are built all the time with private dollars and are different from hospitals.

Charter surgical facilities are not "private care". They're privately operated, but everyone has access to the facilities through AHCIP. They're also not allowed to bill you for insured services, like most surgeries. But they can charge you for things like private rooms or other add-ons, just like the hospital. It's essentially the same as most family medicine practices. They exist in hospitals, but doctors open private clinics that then bill the public system for the services they provide.
 
trtcttc said:
Isn't this a private building used for medical services, which is the same for almost every non-hospital/AHS asset such as your family doctor office, dentist, any specialist clinic, etc. These are built all the time with private dollars and are different from hospitals.

Charter surgical facilities are not "private care". They're privately operated, but everyone has access to the facilities through AHCIP. They're also not allowed to bill you for insured services, like most surgeries. But they can charge you for things like private rooms or other add-ons, just like the hospital. It's essentially the same as most family medicine practices. They exist in hospitals, but doctors open private clinics that then bill the public system for the services they provide.
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Problem is since the UCP decided to divert surgeries to these clinics the overall wait time has increased for anyone in the public stream as evidenced by the lower amount of hip replacements that have occurred since the change. Private facilities just poach doctors and nurses and anesthesiologists from hospitals.
 
O-tac said:
Problem is since the UCP decided to divert surgeries to these clinics the overall wait time has increased for anyone in the public stream as evidenced by the lower amount of hip replacements that have occurred since the change. Private facilities just poach doctors and nurses and anesthesiologists from hospitals.
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Again, every patient in Alberta (for now) is in the public stream. Everyone is on the same waitlist, everyone has publicly funded hip surgeries. This is the latest available data from AHS up to 2024-2025. Hip replacement volumes have increased significantly in 2 years. It decreased in 2024-25, but the wait times also fell, likely an indication they're clearing the backlog. Not saying the wait times are acceptable but there's an opportunity cost to doing more hip replacements, in other surgeries can't be done in the same OR, so they have to bring down waits across the board in a balanced way. Wait times spiked with the post-covid influx in volume, but the fact is the wait is going down and is trending positively. And healthcare is not an absolute finite resource, if everyone is just poaching each other and we can never increase volumes then why did we do 2000 more surgeries in two years?


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