LNahid2000
Senior Member
As for the winter comment, there were 4 days this year when it was impractical for me to bike to work. Most people didn't feel comfortable driving to work on those days either.
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ADRM
Senior Member
Also, degrees of latitude north, comparatively:
Montreal: 45
London: 51
Amsterdam: 52
Copenhagen: 55
Oslo: 59
Helsinki: 60
Toronto: 43
#ItsGettinHotInHere
Montreal: 45
London: 51
Amsterdam: 52
Copenhagen: 55
Oslo: 59
Helsinki: 60
Toronto: 43
#ItsGettinHotInHere
andrewpmk
Senior Member
That is seriously misleading because ocean currents make those cities in Europe warmer despite being at higher latitudes.
LNahid2000
Senior Member
Helsinki: http://www.holiday-weather.com/helsinki/averages/
Oslo: http://www.holiday-weather.com/oslo/averages/
Montreal: http://www.holiday-weather.com/montreal/averages/
All colder than Toronto, but with higher cycling modal share than Toronto.
Toronto: http://www.holiday-weather.com/toronto/averages/
Try again.
ADRM
Senior Member
LOL ocean currents. That's a new one in the anti-bike safety toolbox.
MisterF
Senior Member
And when you point out to people like Andrew how absurd their comments are they disappear, only to reappear a month or so later to repeat the same tired arguments. They're again proven wrong, disappear, rinse, repeat.
Minneapolis has also made great strides with their bike network and is colder than Toronto. Ditto Ottawa. And if small cities count, Peterborough.
Aldebaran
New Member
Good morning,
You're absolutely right, it is misleading to rely solely on latitudes due to the Atlantic Gulf Stream.
That is why a city like Toronto is much colder than the French Riviera even though it is situated on roughly the same latitude, and therefore you were right to object to the quoted cities mentioned like London, Amsterdam, and Copenhagen.
Not all of Europe is warmer than North America though. If you go north far enough in Europe, you will start to approach Toronto's climate, and that's where Helsinki, Oslo, and also Stockholm come in. Imagine a kind of sloped/diagonal latitude as opposed to a horizontal one.
andrewpmk
Senior Member
Woodbine bikes approved. Why am I not surprised with this council?
steveintoronto
Superstar
And to complicate the "ocean currents" claim even further, that has now been discounted. It was, after all, only a theory all these years with no proof. It's prevailing winds, the best theory being that they originate in North Am (Globe's rotation besides). In the event, the whole "we're so much colder" argument is baseless. There's cities in the north of Sweden and Finland with better cycling infrastructure and support.
salsa
Senior Member
Council votes 33-2 to approve installation of contra-flow bike lane on Corley Avenue. Ford & Holyday against.
amnesiajune
Senior Member
What's the point of that? Corley Avenue doesn't go anywhere. Wouldn't it make more sense to build bike lanes that connect Woodbine to the existing Dundas bike lanes or the Martin Goodman Trail?
UpperAvenue
New Member
My guess is to make it easier and safer for kids biking to the school on Corley Avenue.
ShonTron
Moderator
It connects Eastwood Avenue and Gerrard Street to Kingston Road.
amnesiajune
Senior Member
That shouldn't be a priority for the city. Kids 14 and under are allowed to bike on sidewalks. It makes a lot more sense IMO to not have an awkward gap between Dundas, Woodbine and the Waterfront Trail.
Can you clarify this? Kingston and Gerrard are already connected to Woodbine, neither of those have bike lanes, and Corley Avenue doesn't intersect either of them. Eastwood Avenue is 4 km east of Woodbine.
salsa
Senior Member
Here is a map of how the Corley bike lane fits within the greater cycling network plan. Chorley is a one way street, so what council approved today is a contra-flow bike lane that would allow cyclists to travel in either direction. Council also approved separated bike lanes on Woodbine Ave.
