IceCreamMan
Active Member
Very disappointed with this result (thanks NIMBYers). The proposed development was the right scale and the right type of development. Ugh.
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I'm actually shocked this vote failed as badly as it did.
archited
Senior Member
Money talks and all else walks.
EtoV
Active Member
Who needs walkable communities anyways
FTFY
Platinum107
Senior Member
Couldn't be more true lol. Most people that live there don't realize the fact that projects like this one are the ones that make the neighborhood a truly wonderful and walkable place.
Moderne
Active Member
Which is hilarious given there's already retail on the opposite corner. What are people worried about, that they won't be able to park their "For Sale" cars in view of Stony Plain Road anymore by that park?
lat
New Member
I'm typically one for encouraging development, but this one just didn't make a lot of sense to me, since there is a triangle of undeveloped land immediately south of it that would be far better suited to a development like this. The wife and I walked around the area, and having a commercial development north of 104 Ave would have been a mistake, IMHO, given the alternative that stares you in the face, when you are standing there...
lat
New Member
Yep, I know, but it isn't much of a park, and doesn't have any development on it. IMO, it would better serve the community as a small commercial development, which would be a better buffer to SPR...
EDIT: Actually, it doesn't appear to be a proper public park, but more just a green space....
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@lat It's zoned AP and city-owned, that's as proper a public park as it can get. I get your point and don't necessarily disagree, but I wouldn't expect the city or the community to sell or trade that space for development.
The next best thing then was exactly the proposal that Council just rejected.
The next best thing then was exactly the proposal that Council just rejected.
lat
New Member
I get your point as well, but...
Yeah, zoning is one thing, practical use is another. When standing on the sidewalk, looking at that piece of land, it does not present itself as a park. I would rather see this patch of land get rezoned to allow commercial development, than have something zoned for residential get rezoned for commercial. Again, all IMO...
I would also argue that giving a park a name would be as proper as it can get, but that is really beside the point...
EDIT: I think it bears repeating that I am typically in favour of developments such as this. If that triangle of land wasn't ripe for development, I would've supported this proposal.
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David A
Senior Member
Looked like a very nice development that would have fit in quite nicely in the area and it would have been walkable for some nearby
Between this and the nearby existing commercial area could have been a nice hub for the community, but sadly the NIMBY's who probably are used to driving everywhere can't see a good thing when it stares them in the face.
Between this and the nearby existing commercial area could have been a nice hub for the community, but sadly the NIMBY's who probably are used to driving everywhere can't see a good thing when it stares them in the face.
IanO
Superstar
I'd love to see this come back to council post-LRT.
Platinum107
Senior Member
It really is such a weird, backwards mentality when you drill into it.
Why wouldn't residents of a wealthy neighbourhood like Glenora want more amenities in their immediate proximity, likely with really nice and higher-end options at that? How can something that would make their neighbourhood more interesting and would raise their property value (new amenities and services) be rejected so heavily and viscerally?
Personally, I believe that most Canadians' idea of what a city should be has been fundamentally warped by American-style suburbanization, hyper-individuality, and value of exclusivity over shared benefits. Many people believe that they should be able to live in the middle of a big city, which they can, yet at the same time expect their neighbourhood to remain exclusive and separate from it in a wealthy bubble. That's just not how a good city works, and I'm happy that Edmonton is starting to recognize this and make the changes we need to make every neighbourhood a better place to live and be.