robmausser
Senior Member
I just say they gun it before Bramalea and just coast all the way to Georgetown. Everyone can just jump on and off at the stations inbetween.
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I just say they gun it before Bramalea and just coast all the way to Georgetown. Everyone can just jump on and off at the stations inbetween.
smallspy
Senior Member
I don't think that there is any modern precedence to this here in Canada. (Yes, I'm aware that CN towed VIA's trains through the Mount Royal Tunnel, but neither of those organizations own nor use that stretch of track now. I also don't know how those arrangements operated, and if they were simply holdovers to when CN operated all of the services through there.)
In the US, Amtrak owns the majority of the North East Corridor and the overhead above it. Apparently their rates take into account not just power usage, but also maintenance and replacement costs as well, and so many of the commuter lines balk at the pricing offered - and thus operate diesel-powered trains under the overhead.
Dan
crs1026
Superstar
A shot of activity today at Bayview - looks like the turnout for the new third track to West Harbour is ready to be installed. Then comes the tracklaying. So nice to see this coming together. I'm told they may straighten out the kink in the tracks while they are at it.
The earthmoving on the north side that was commented on previously simply appears to be easing of the slope of the bank. I wonder whether new fencing is about to appear.
- Paul
The earthmoving on the north side that was commented on previously simply appears to be easing of the slope of the bank. I wonder whether new fencing is about to appear.
- Paul
Allandale25
Senior Member
crs1026
Superstar
^Without measuring clearances or curves, that alignment would be exactly what CN would not want. The whole idea of the crossovers is to keep GO on the south most track, and to minimise conflict between those movements and London-bound trains (whose route diverges to the right).
The track alignment at Burlington and Aldershot is all about keeping freight on the north and GO on the south. This aligns to that.
- Paul
The track alignment at Burlington and Aldershot is all about keeping freight on the north and GO on the south. This aligns to that.
- Paul
crs1026
Superstar
^Just to illustrate my point - just a few seconds after I took the above picture, this happened. See how CN relies on having both of the two London tracks available much of the time. There is a route possible from the middle track towards Hamilton, and that's used regularly by GO and Amtrak, if CN traffic permits. But running GO on the northmost track, and having it cross over in front of that eastbound, would be undesirable. That's why GO crosses over to the south at Burlington West and stays there until clear of the Dundas Sub.
- Paul
- Paul
smallspy
Senior Member
On top of what Paul wrote, there is also a geometric reason why they won't do that.
Doing so would require the second switch to be a curved wye switch, which is not something that CN normally keeps in stock. Because it is non-standard, maintenance will be a bit more of a pain. As an additional minus, it's geometry may not be ideal for the speeds that CN wishes to operate at.
Dan
Allandale25
Senior Member
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
I wonder if the new track will use concrete ties. That seems to be the new norm for Metrolinx.
smallspy
Senior Member
Because it is owned by CN, and to be installed by their forces, they are likely to go with the bare minimum that they need to be able to meet the necessary standards. So, no, it's not going to use concrete ties.
Dan
Allandale25
Senior Member
raptor
Senior Member
I've also found this notice of public meeting (for zones 4+5), however it already took place on Nov 12:
It's a shame this project doesn't include the actual second track. Makes me wonder when they'll get to it, 2026?
I still remember Metrolinx promised 2WAD electrified service on the Barrie line by 2025.
Edit: on second thought, perhaps the actual second track is part of the OnCorr contract.
Krypto98
Active Member
Took some pictures at bramalea go of the parking structure and new extended platform. It was dark out so these may not be the best pictures.
drum118
Superstar
Nov 26
You forgot the other end.
The switch has been cut in at Bayview Junction.
Those snake tracks over by Desjardins Channel are to be straighten out. Switches have or are about to be cut in
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You forgot the other end.
The switch has been cut in at Bayview Junction.
Those snake tracks over by Desjardins Channel are to be straighten out. Switches have or are about to be cut in
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drum118
Superstar
Burlington
Tim's is open at Burlington GO station and Burlington Transit has moved buses back to the new bus bay for them back in Sept. Buses were still on the north side when I was there in Aug. Tim's was very busy and not surprise for this.
Confederation
Nothing has started on the new Confederation station itself or the tracks, but the bus terminal is done along with a small parking lot. The parking lot wasn't full when I was there.
There are 4 bus stops with GO having 3 of them and Dart for the other one. There is one shelter with a heater in it, but didn't need on today as it was so warm, I wasn't wearing a coat.
A few quick shot for now as they are in a backlog at this time. Not edit, tag or number at this time.
Tim's is open at Burlington GO station and Burlington Transit has moved buses back to the new bus bay for them back in Sept. Buses were still on the north side when I was there in Aug. Tim's was very busy and not surprise for this.
Confederation
Nothing has started on the new Confederation station itself or the tracks, but the bus terminal is done along with a small parking lot. The parking lot wasn't full when I was there.
There are 4 bus stops with GO having 3 of them and Dart for the other one. There is one shelter with a heater in it, but didn't need on today as it was so warm, I wasn't wearing a coat.
A few quick shot for now as they are in a backlog at this time. Not edit, tag or number at this time.