turbanplanner
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probably talked about scotch as well
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max
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Did Dougie have a painting commissioned of his brother in front of a staticy TV screen?
crs1026
Superstar
More seriously, it's interesting to speculate on what messages CPKC would want to send to Ontario and what messages Ontario would want to send CPKC. This flows more into General Railway discussion than GO Transit, but I will leave it here.
Ontario:
- Milton Line (it's effectively a Ford promise at this point)
- Service to the auto industry and new plants in the works
- GO to Peterborough and Bolton
- Landswapping to advance GO
- Service to industries on line (jobs at stake, highway usage)
CPKC:
- We don't mind running GO if the price is right, but ML are idiots
- Reality check on using CPKC lines for GO Transit
- Reality check on rerouting or coproducing with CN (hint: stay away)
- Need for yard facilities in particular places
- Need for grade separations and security in particular places - not our fault if people get hit etc
- Desire for subsidy to build into auto industry locations
- Desire for subsidy for just about anything you might mention
- Desire for transload in preference to retaining spurs and branchlines and local switching
Just spitballing here, I have no inside info. Main thing is, CP may have an agenda that extends beyond GTA or GO.
- Paul
Ontario:
- Milton Line (it's effectively a Ford promise at this point)
- Service to the auto industry and new plants in the works
- GO to Peterborough and Bolton
- Landswapping to advance GO
- Service to industries on line (jobs at stake, highway usage)
CPKC:
- We don't mind running GO if the price is right, but ML are idiots
- Reality check on using CPKC lines for GO Transit
- Reality check on rerouting or coproducing with CN (hint: stay away)
- Need for yard facilities in particular places
- Need for grade separations and security in particular places - not our fault if people get hit etc
- Desire for subsidy to build into auto industry locations
- Desire for subsidy for just about anything you might mention
- Desire for transload in preference to retaining spurs and branchlines and local switching
Just spitballing here, I have no inside info. Main thing is, CP may have an agenda that extends beyond GTA or GO.
- Paul
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turbanplanner
Senior Member
What do you mean by coproducing?
crs1026
Superstar
Andy_in_Toronto
Active Member
One can dream in Ontario regional express train running smoothly at 190km/h:
The tracks are so well built that there are no vibrations. We get DB to run GO trains, but can we get their engineers as well?
The tracks are so well built that there are no vibrations. We get DB to run GO trains, but can we get their engineers as well?
Metroscapes
Active Member
City worries strip of land critical to Cambridge GO Transit extension could be sold
A consent application to sever a strip of land on the east side of the CN railway tracks in Hespeler has prompted the city and region to object to the idea
www.cambridgetoday.ca
The City / Region are now blocking CN from severing parts of the Fergus Spur.
Northern Light
Superstar
City worries strip of land critical to Cambridge GO Transit extension could be sold
A consent application to sever a strip of land on the east side of the CN railway tracks in Hespeler has prompted the city and region to object to the idea
The City / Region are now blocking CN from severing parts of the Fergus Spur.
From the above:
Of note, the land in question once was a rail station:
urbancog
Active Member
Because of the consortium structure on Onxpress, it looks like we have engineers who've worked on the Spanish high speed lines rather than lines in Germany. I don't have any first hand experience of those lines but they operate a much higher speeds than we need for GO Expansion.
Leadership Team | ONxpress
Learn how the ONxpress Leadership Team is driving transit development in Ontario as part of the Metrolinx GO Expansion.
onxpress.com
crs1026
Superstar
Nice historical map available at -
Hespeler Railway Stations
Location: Hespeler (Cambridge), Waterloo Township, Waterloo County Name: Community named in 1858 after the first postmaster, Jacob Hespeler Former Community Names: Bergeytown, New Hope Railway Comp…
ontariorailwaystations.wordpress.com
- Paul
Metroscapes
Active Member
It also includes a picture of the excavation taking place down there. I had seen what was done on the east side of the road, but the picture seems to be looking west of the road (in the severed parcel area). I find it curious, they seem like drainage works.
Northern Light
Superstar
Nice historical map available at -
Hespeler Railway Stations
Location: Hespeler (Cambridge), Waterloo Township, Waterloo County Name: Community named in 1858 after the first postmaster, Jacob Hespeler Former Community Names: Bergeytown, New Hope Railway Comp…
- Paul
From the above link:
Picture of station (destroyed by arson 2003)
No photo credit given at source.
Structure built 1900
Coolibop
Active Member
While we're speculating, I'd add line 4 Sheppard subway to Malvern along their corridor.
rdaner
Senior Member
I was at the West Harbour GO this afternoon for a 5:15 train back to town and a ton of people got off when the train arrived and over 100 got on. Had no idea it was that well used!
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
Build it and they will come! Did you see how the tie-in track was coming along?