[nfitz]

So where the Lakeshore and Stouffville lines are concurrent with the Ontario line, then we'd have up to 19 GO trains per hour per direction and 40 Ontario Line trains per hour per direction. And let's assume 1 VIA train per hour per direction (probably higher some hours). So that's 120 total trains an hour. Or a train every 30 seconds, on average. If you are somewhere where you can hear the trains running in the daytime, then silence will be rarer than hearing a train.

There's no way Metrolinx can get to these frequencies with 3 crew member trains. The staffing costs would bankrupt them.

I'd assume that the plan would be that once they start looking more like subway trains and subway frequencies, to get to one-person crews, and fare inspectors, etc.

Of course this would require regulatory changes.

 

[Willybru21]

I'd assume that the plan would be that once they start looking more like subway trains

No the plan intended to use our existing coaches and electric engines. The screenshots of the documents above even show the train lengths and how many diesel and electric engines will be pulling trains on certain lines.

 

[nfitz]

No this is the plan using our existing coaches and electric engines.

You've got the numbers closer than hand, but I'd be really surprised if there's enough existing coaches to do that type of service on the main 5 lines - even with the much shorter trains.

And what's the lifespan on the coaches? The oldest ones will be 50 years soon. The bi-level fleet is only going to shrink from now on.

I'd think that there has to be an EMU option in the pipeline to start providing some of this service sooner than later.

Great work though! You should make sure that when the media (and non-media like blogTO) pick this up, that they credit it you (and your source) for putting it together!