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reaperexpress said:
Where does the 16:13 Unionville arrival go after it drops off passengers?
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Looks like it deadheads back to Union, for the 17:22 Kitchener departure.

Trip schedule for Stouffville to ST - Unionville Go at 3:32:00PM - TransSee

Trip schedule for Stouffville to ST - Unionville Go at 3:32:00PM
www.transsee.ca www.transsee.ca

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PShells said:
I just passed a southbound 6-car train at 5:39pm at Unionville GO, so I’m now 100% convinced it’s the same train doing the quick return on the southbound trip.
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Yes, this is correct. The 16:50 departure from Union arrives at Unionville at 17:31, and departs back south at 17:39.

Trip schedule for Stouffville to ST - Unionville Go at 4:50:00PM - TransSee

Trip schedule for Stouffville to ST - Unionville Go at 4:50:00PM
www.transsee.ca www.transsee.ca

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And it is indeed a 6 pack.

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T3G said:
Looks like it deadheads back to Union, for the 17:22 Kitchener departure.

Trip schedule for Stouffville to ST - Unionville Go at 3:32:00PM - TransSee

Trip schedule for Stouffville to ST - Unionville Go at 3:32:00PM
www.transsee.ca www.transsee.ca

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Yes, this is correct. The 16:50 departure from Union arrives at Unionville at 17:31, and departs back south at 17:39.

Trip schedule for Stouffville to ST - Unionville Go at 4:50:00PM - TransSee

Trip schedule for Stouffville to ST - Unionville Go at 4:50:00PM
www.transsee.ca www.transsee.ca

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And it is indeed a 6 pack.

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Too bad they don't let people ride it while it travels from Unionville to Union in the middle of a 2-hour gap in train service.

The buses at that time take 55 minutes, versus 41 minutes by train, and apparently there's so much demand that they need to run two buses back-to-back.

Based on the northbound schedule the southbound deadhead would need to depart Unionville at 16:37 and arrive at Union around 17:15. It would meet northbound trains just south of Unionville at 16:39 and north of Kennedy at 16:52.
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In light of the above pair of posts............. I think someone should probably point out the value to Mx of turning that into a revenue train trip.

But before anyone writes in, I think @reaperexpress should be asked nicely if he can take the time to tell us if the schedule leaves room for any intermediate stops, particularly when factoring that run into the compressed Lakeshore corridor.

It would still add value as an express; but it might make sense to deliver an intermediate stop at Kennedy if the schedule allowed for it.
 
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Northern Light said:
In light of the above pair of posts............. I think someone should probably point out the value to Mx of turning that into a revenue train trip.

But before anyone writes in, I think @reaperexpress should be asked nicely if he can take the time to tell us if the schedule leaves room for any intermediate stops, particularly when factoring that run into the compressed Lakeshore corridor.

It would still add value as an express; but it might make sense to deliver an intermediate stop at Kennedy if the schedule allowed for it.
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If it made stops it would follow the same timetable as the train an hour later. But then it would arrive at Union only 4 minutes before its next departure on the Kitchener line, so they presumably want to run it express to give it more time at Union and minimize the chance of delays.

So basically I think they would/should run it non-stop from Unionville to Union even though in most cases the time they save skipping Agincourt and Milliken will be lost sitting in the siding just north of Kennedy. The schedule could be three minutes shorter than the train an hour later since it would consistently save that much by skipping Kennedy and already being at the south end of the passing track at Kennedy at 16:48 when the northbound train departs. (The train could have stopped at Kennedy if Metrolinx had created a small project to extend the double track through Kennedy station which already has 2 platforms, one of which is abandoned).

On a similar note there is presumably a northbound counter-peak deadhead trip that departs Union around 07:10, passes a southbound train north of Kennedy at 07:29 and arrives at Unionville at 07:45 meeting another southbound train there.
 
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Northern Light said:
The letter above:

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Bradford is one of the only GO stations with an at-grade pedestrian crossing. GO (and later Metrolinx) have been very proactive in providing grade-separated pedestrian crossings at stations, typically two at each station. I'm sure Metrolinx would support of a new pedestrian tunnel at Bradford station if they can find funding for it.
 
ShonTron said:
And does that include all three NYC-area commuter rail operators? (Metro-North, LIRR, NJ Transit)
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Average weekday ridership.

From Wikipedia: *note there are ordered by 2018 weekday ridership, but 2024 is the subsequent column to the right would result in a different order.

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ShonTron said:
For regional/commuter rail?
And does that include all three NYC-area commuter rail operators? (Metro-North, LIRR, NJ Transit)
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Northern Light said:
Average weekday ridership.

From Wikipedia: *note there are ordered by 2018 weekday ridership, but 2024 is the subsequent column to the right would result in a different order.
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From the APTA 2024 ridership report, GO had ~53 million boardings and ~220k daily riders. When it comes to commuter rail, this puts it behind all three New York metro systems (the LIRR, Metro North, and NJ Transit), and ahead of the Chicago Metra.

chart of ridership; Metra has 166k daily and 34 million annual boardings, NJ Transit has 59 million annual boardings, the LIRR has 275k daily and 84 million annual boardings, and the Metro North has 255k daily and 68 million annual boardings.

GO's ridership. The commuter rail had 218k daily and 53 million annual boardings
 
DirectionNorth said:
From the APTA 2024 ridership report, GO had ~53 million boardings and ~220k daily riders. When it comes to commuter rail, this puts it behind all three New York metro systems (the LIRR, Metro North, and NJ Transit), and ahead of the Chicago Metra.

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Good resource.

But, they have more up to date data, they're up to Q2 2025. (doesn't change the order)



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Isn't Metra a bit of an oddball in that some of it's "commuter rail" lines serve frequent local stops?
I recall some of them are long distance hauls, but some are milk runs. It would be like if GO had 15 stops on the Lakeshore lines in Toronto.
I don't think you can reasonably compare these.

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