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...and here's Rosie DiManno's take. She does have one point, though. Why no politicians visiting the victim's family?

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Panhandlers' rights trump victim's

Aug 15, 2007 04:30 AM
Rosie DiManno

A headline you'll never see in this or any other newspaper: "Wife-killer harmless guy, had a few drinks."

There is an odious pecking order to victims of violence and thus poor Ross Hammond has received abysmally short shrift as a crime statistic.

The 32-year-old wasn't even on the autopsy table yet – three to five stab wounds to the chest and abdomen, coroner can't tell for certain because of all the surgical incisions made as doctors tried to save Hammond's life – before homeless advocates were pre-emptively rehabilitating the four young adults charged with aggravated assault, shortly to be elevated, likely to second-degree murder. By the by, the quartet – two male, two female – had been drinking, according to a friend.

Compassion, it would appear, should accrue to the accused instead because, like, they were clearly indigent and, okay, at least one knife was drawn and plunged into flesh, but let's not lose sight of the bigger issue, ergo, homelessness and destitution and, if only Hammond hadn't reacted so provocatively when accosted for money none of this would have happened. Blaming the victim has not fallen entirely out of practice.

As one sociologist noted afterwards, remove the aggressive panhandling element and this was all just another one-on-one assault, ho-hum, happens all the time.

It wasn't one on one. It was, as homicide detective Gary Giroux told the Star yesterday, "four on one, not exactly a fair fight.''

And menacing begging – not passive, not even common, though an escalating societal malaise in Toronto – was a central factor in the tragedy. Presumably, to save our skins, we should all just shuffle along, suck up the hounding.

Notice no politician has swung by the victim's home to offer condolences to a grieving family, as has become all but optically essential in death by the gun. Gangland violence: Bad. Panhandler violence: Not so much.

Hammond, Toronto's 51st homicide this year, was strolling along Queen St. W. just after midnight last Thursday when approached by a cadger hitting him up for money. Police say a dispute erupted and very quickly turned lethal, Hammond assaulted by the party of four.

"I'm not saying (Hammond) was squeaky clean. No doubt he did say something to them, probably in colourful language," says Giroux. "But those (panhandlers) were very aggressive in their language and posture. Voices were raised, punches were thrown, and within seconds this got very serious."

Hammond's slaying comes one month after a 79-year-old man was mugged outside a Vancouver church by a panhandler apparently dissatisfied with the $5 he'd received. Last month, a 28-year-old man was charged in Toronto for allegedly beating up a man who refused to give him spare change.

Panhandling violence may not be a huge trend, but menacing by mendicants is, as anyone who lives or works in downtown Toronto knows. It's a distressing development municipal politicians would rather not address, as they put the emphasis on the homeless part of the equation rather than the unpleasantness and sense of siege experienced by the greater population. Indeed, Hammond's death won't even fall under the purview of a city-launched summer probe of aggressive panhandling because – naturally – the objective is better understanding the needs of the beggars rather than quantifying the threat to public safety and simple enjoyment of one's city.

Panhandling doesn't automatically equal homelessness and neither state of being should excuse intimidation.

The police blotter had this much right: All four accused, in their early 20s, are of no fixed address. Three are Americans. In court today, they will be clamped on "immigration holds."

American panhandlers: Now there's something you can righteously condemn.


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On the other hand...


Panhandlers the ones in peril, activist says

Aug 15, 2007 04:30 AM
Laurie Monsebraaten
staff reporter

The rush to outlaw panhandling in the wake of recent acts of violence in Toronto and Vancouver is a knee-jerk reaction that unfairly targets the destitute as dangerous, says a homeless advocate.

Most injurious attacks "happen in houses among people who know each other, not on the streets," said outreach worker Beric German of Street Health, an agency that helps poor and homeless people.

If a doctor is accused of murder, the entire medical profession isn't maligned, he said.

And yet, that's just what callers to radio shows and some local politicians are doing when they say Toronto needs a bylaw to prohibit the poor from asking for spare change from passersby, he said.

Aggressive panhandling is already illegal under Ontario's Safe Streets Act, passed in 1999.

But the battering this month of a retired surgeon, 79, in a church vestibule in Vancouver and the fatal knifing of an out-of-towner in a melee near Trinity Bellwoods Park in west-end Toronto – both allegedly at the hands of panhandlers – has renewed calls to ban the practice entirely.

Earlier this year, Toronto Councillor Case Ootes (Ward 29, Toronto Danforth) called for a bylaw to prohibit panhandling in tourist areas.

As a result, the city ordered a pilot project this summer to assess the needs of panhandlers working downtown to better understand who they are and why they do it, as well as consulting merchants on the impact on their businesses.

The report is expected next spring.

But German said this initiative is just an attempt to gather ammunition to sweep homeless people off the streets so they will be "out of sight and out of mind."

Street Health has just completed a year-long survey of Toronto homeless that will update its groundbreaking report released 15 years ago, German said.

One finding is that contrary to recent fears that street people threaten public safety, the homeless are much more likely to suffer violence than those asked to spare some change, he said.

Of almost 400 homeless interviewed, 35 per cent said they were assaulted last year. Among that group, 68 per cent said they were assaulted an average of six times. Less than 1 per cent of the general population reported assaults to police in 2005, the survey notes.

Average monthly income of those interviewed was about $300. About one in 10 listed panhandling as a source of income, the report found.

Many formerly homeless people find that landing permanent shelter doesn't mean they can give up a street life, German said.

"Welfare doesn't pay enough to cover both rent and food, so they are forced to panhandle to eat."

Banning panhandling would rob many of their ability to survive, German said.


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Panhandling code of don'ts

Under Ontario's Safe Streets Act, it is illegal for a panhandler to:

Obstruct the path of pedestrians while asking for money.

Use abusive language.

Proceed behind, alongside or ahead of pedestrians.

Solicit while intoxicated.

Solicit near a bank machine, pay phone, public washroom, taxi stand or transit stop.

Approach people for money in a transit vehicle, at a parking lot or on a roadway when a person is sitting in a stopped or parked vehicle.

The act calls for fines of up to $500 for first-time offenders, and up to $1,000 and/or six months in jail for subsequent convictions.One in 3 street people report they were assaulted last year, usually more than once, survey finds
 
Approach people for money in a transit vehicle, at a parking lot or on a roadway when a person is sitting in a stopped or parked vehicle.
Then why do I see beggars at the roadside walking up and down the row of cars trying to make eye contact with the stopped drivers almost every day I drive down to the Jarvis Street exit from the Gardiner?
 
It's good to emphasize the difference between homelessness and panhandling. They are quite different things.
I think panhandling should be made illegal. But I believe that's dependent on there being a social net in place that makes it unnecessary.

Part of the problem in Toronto lately, is that pay received on welfare is so low that it is impossible for people to sustain themselves decently on it for very long. I remember - I needed a one-month shot of it myself, when it was cut! There is no way that anyone on it could keep a phone, a reputable place to live as well as themselves clean and decently-clothed for more than a few months. Not a great situation for finding work, or even keeping your chin up.
 
Notice no politician has swung by the victim's home to offer condolences to a grieving family, as has become all but optically essential in death by the gun. Gangland violence: Bad. Panhandler violence: Not so much.
There is nothing so uninteresting to a Toronto social/liberal than a white male, where to borrow from Jeffrey Eugenides in "Middlesex", we don't ever see "a" man, we now only see 'the man'. Insidious, indeed.
 
There is nothing so uninteresting to a Toronto social/liberal than a white male, where to borrow from Jeffrey Eugenides in "Middlesex", we don't ever see "a" man, we now only see 'the man'. Insidious, indeed.
:rolleyes:

Not every murder victim's family recieves a publicized visit from politicians, even for gun victims.
 
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Impulsive laws won't solve the problems caused by panhandlers

Editorial
Vancouver Sun
Thursday, August 16, 2007

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/editorial/story.html?id=e19f90e2-4bc1-4004-be1f-f560890bbf2d


Hard cases aren't the only things that make bad law. High profile events, especially when they occur in rapid succession in large cities, can also result in ill-considered, counterproductive legislation.

The current controversy over panhandlers is a case in point. On Aug. 1, 79-year-old retired physician Peter Collins was viciously attacked by a panhandler in Vancouver's Holy Rosary Cathedral. The attack was caught on a surveillance camera.

Little more than a week later, 32-year-old Ross Hammond was stabbed to death by four assailants on Queen Street in Toronto.

Collins's alleged assailant has now been apprehended and charged with robbery, and Hammond's alleged attackers -- three of whom may have been in Canada illegally, which adds another dimension to the story -- have also been apprehended and are expected to face murder charges.

Despite the arrests, these two events have led many critics to conclude that aggressive panhandling is out of control and that cities aren't doing enough to eliminate it.

In particular, Toronto Councillor Michael Thompson, who was himself the victim of an assault near Toronto City Hall last year, has called for a complete ban on begging.

Now one has to wonder exactly how such a ban could be enforced. Police could round up anyone found panhandling -- even those who aren't aggressive -- but it would be no mean feat for Toronto, or any city, to keep all its homeless off the street permanently solely through enforcement of the law.

The fact is, different people are on the street for different reasons, and for those addled by addictions and/or mental illness, no law will ensure they never again ask passersby for money.

The only way to deal with these people is through outreach programs designed to connect them with appropriate treatment and housing services. Large cities like Vancouver and Toronto have begun projects to do just that, and several large municipalities in the United States have found such programs have met with unqualified success.

That said, there are aggressive panhandlers who do cause serious problems, and the only way to deal with them is through law enforcement. But we already have laws in place, such as the Criminal Code, under which Collins's alleged assailant has been charged, and provincial laws such as the Safe Streets Act, to deal with such problems.

And it appears such laws are working exceptionally well. While high-profile events can lull us into believing that aggressive panhandling is worse than ever, the numbers tell a very different story.

According to the Downtown Vancouver Business Improvement Association, "street interactions" -- aggressive panhandling, illegal vending and drug-dealing -- are down dramatically from 3,000 to 4,000 a month in 2004 to about 350 a month during 2007.

The interactions dropped precipitously after enactment of the Safe Street Act in British Columbia, and again after 33 new police officers took to the streets in September 2006.

This suggests that law enforcement has indeed proved to be efficacious in reducing the degree of problematic panhandling. It doesn't mean that no one will ever again be assaulted -- no law could ever guarantee that -- but it does mean that we're doing a lot of things right.

Perhaps most importantly, it means that we can and should solve our problems through careful consideration of proven measures, rather than through rash decisions made in response to tragic, yet rare events.


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I think panhandling should be made illegal. But I believe that's dependent on there being a social net in place that makes it unnecessary.

Personally, I agree with this. Create a decent basic support infrastructure - safe, clean shelters in sufficient quantities; simple nutritious meals always available; genuinely adequate welfare payments and education/placement programs; medical care, therapy and such for those who need it; and preferably a sort of Dutch-style drug program - then (and *only* then) ban both panhandling and living on the street outright.
 
why isn't lou dobbs complaining about this case of illegal immigration? ;)
 
Crack on Queen St. blamed for crime

Criminal element now more threatening, many residents say

Aug 17, 2007 04:30 AM
Jen Gerson
staff reporter

At the front of his Queen St. W. store and in the alleyways behind his home, Scott Cramer can't escape the addicts doing deals in crack cocaine.

"They go into the back alley to smoke. They're not even hiding it. It's out in the open," said the owner of Neurotica Music, where he works and lives.

Queen St. W. has long been a mixed-market location where the club kids and art fiends could slum it with the down-and-out. But during the past four or five years, residents say the criminal element has become more threatening, more aggressive. They're blaming the decline, in part, on an influx of crack.

Calls to clean up the strip were renewed this week after the stabbing death of Ross Hammond, a 32-year-old from St. Catharines who, after refusing to give money to aggressive panhandlers, got into a fight and was stabbed to death a week ago. His funeral was held yesterday, while 21-year-old Nicole Kish was charged with second-degree murder. Three others have been charged with aggravated assault.

Kathi Prosser, chairman of the impromptu Queen St. W. Residents Association, said that people should blame the drugs, rather than homelessness or poverty alone.

"I don't think this is a panhandling issue, this is a drug issue," she said.

One of the accused, Faith Watts, also known as Sarah McDermit from California, was a known hard drug abuser in her hometown, according to police. It is not known if any of the other accused were involved in drugs.

Leslie Saunders, co-ordinator for the Meeting Place adult drop-in centre at Queen and Bathurst Sts., said they started to notice the crack problem in 2002.

"It seems to be getting worse and worse every year," she said.

Almost all of the people who make use of the drop-in centre suffer from mental illness or addiction and of late, smoking crack has become as problematic as the drinking of Listerine and rubbing alcohol, and just as common.

"It's just so accessible. It's everywhere. If people can scrape up loonies and toonies, they can find crack," she said.

Crack, a cheaper form of cocaine, is an addictive stimulant known to cause desperate, reckless behaviour among its users. Hits can be bought for a few dollars, but highs last rarely longer than 10 minutes.

Saunders said that according to frequenters of the Meeting Place, the drugs are coming from outside the community and the addiction is being exacerbated by cuts to social services that make it harder for people to get back on their feet.

"The experience of living in poverty has become much more intense," she said.
 
Personally, I agree with this. Create a decent basic support infrastructure - safe, clean shelters in sufficient quantities; simple nutritious meals always available; genuinely adequate welfare payments and education/placement programs; medical care, therapy and such for those who need it; and preferably a sort of Dutch-style drug program - then (and *only* then) ban both panhandling and living on the street outright.

I agree, but I'm a little weary of the 'inadequate support infrastructure' nonsense. I mean come on, this is Canada. We're not exactly short on social services here. I suspect that you can throw as much money at the problem as possible and you will still have homeless and panhandlers. Better to deal with the reality.
 
Tewder:

I agree, but I'm a little weary of the 'inadequate support infrastructure' nonsense. I mean come on, this is Canada. We're not exactly short on social services here. I suspect that you can throw as much money at the problem as possible and you will still have homeless and panhandlers. Better to deal with the reality.

What you've just said is rather misinformed - do you know just how "adequate" our support infrastructure is, really? Like, how much welfare payments are relative to cost of living, or the current waiting list for affordable housing? Or how accessible mental health services are? To throw out this "we're not exactly short on social services here" line without a clear understanding of the actual system is patently pointless.

So how do we deal with the reality then, given the limitations in the system? Do we arrest the homeless, and see how far the current support system takes them? Or do we wait till a crisis happens and then the homeless having to end up using far more costly services, such as jails, hospital ERs, etc? Or do we take a more Darwinian approach?

AoD
 
An enlightened piece from today's Sun...

Want safe streets? Keep 'em beg free

By MIKE STROBEL


What on earth are we waiting for, wholesale slaughter?

A Beggar Alley? Like Sniper Alley in good ol' Sarajevo. Maybe Front St. or Yonge.

Run the gauntlet. Pray you pass only the hapless homeless. Not the goons with crack in their veins and attack in their eyes.

Anyone who strolls Toronto streets knew it would happen sooner or later.

The uneasy kinship between us and our panhandlers has reached a sorry new plateau.

In war, in any conflict, it's called escalation.

Four people in their early 20s are accused in the knifing death of passerby Ross Hammond.

One woman was charged with second-degree murder yesterday. Two men and another woman, all Americans, are held on counts of aggravated assault.

Americans? What are we now? A panhandlers' vacation hotspot?

Hammond, 32, died at St. Mike's two days after being accosted for a handout on Queen W. near Niagara St. just after midnight. He objected. In the ensuing brawl, he was stabbed. The police are still trying to sort out exactly what happened.

But we know this: Ross Hammond's wife buried him in St. Catharines yesterday.

The tragedy may be a first for Toronto, but surely we could read the signs.

Three weeks ago Peter Collins, 79, was mugged near his Vancouver church by a self-described "professional panhandler." This, after Mr. Collins offered the bum five bucks.

On Queen St., where Ross Hammond met his end, business owners report assault, break-ins, threats and open drug use.

In Ottawa's sunny Byward Market last week, I watched seedy, spacey men invade restaurant patios in hopes of booty. Our Chris Blizzard wrote of the capital's decline in July.

"Aw, Strobel," you may say, "you're just one of those redneck panhandler-haters."

No, I am not. Some of my favourite people are beggars. Even the Shaky Lady has a certain earthy charm. I just don't like the way they make their living.

"Well, what about the polite panhandlers?" you ask.

True, they don't scare me. But I am male, 6-foot-1 and strong like bull.

For many folks, panhandling is inherently intimidating. And therefore aggressive. And therefore illegal?

Two winters ago, I spent two nights with bums on Nathan Phillips Square. (Not the ones in City Hall.) I met a 13-year-old runaway who was drafted as a slave/gofer by three beggars living in a shadowy nook on Bay St.

The kid was evasive about what they made him do and I didn't really want to know.

Those three were the scariest guys I've ever met. And there they were, panhandling on one of our signature streets.

I managed to get the kid home, but I've not been that nervous in this town before or since.

I wish the apologists had met those three stooges.

Maybe their stance would be less wanly predictable.

Most startling this week was a letter to our editor, from a fellow who said he'd worked nights on city streets for 36 years.

"My best guess," it read, "would be that Ross Hammond died not because he failed to supply four panhandlers with a handout, but because he felt entitled to give them some of his middle-class opinions." Well, that sure will teach Mr. Hammond to offer middle-class opinions.

Lots do. One time I asked a guy for change of a fiver for parking. "Get a job," he shouted, and stormed off.

That's my point. Panhand-ling can bring out the worst in people. Beggars and beggees. Don't blame either, if it makes you feel better.

Just ban it. Enforce it. Fix this disgrace. For everyone's sake.

We spend nearly $200 million on Toronto's homeless. Use that dough to make our shelters such that no one has an excuse to set up a bedroll and a tin can on Jarvis St. in January.

It is especially pathetic that we allow people with psychiatric problems to squat on our streets. Don't blame them. It's our shame. Pick them up. Get them the help they need. That's cruel?

We have the means. Do we have the will?
 
I was at Whole Foods last week in Yorkville and this well dressed girl came into the store and began approaching person after person... On-cue she would begin "crying" and asking if they could please spare $5 bucks for a GO ticket home. She managed to fool a few people... I saw her get a couple of $10's... then she scooted off into the mall and continued on there with her scam. At the rate she was going, she probably raked enough cash for a ticket to England.
 
I was at Whole Foods last week in Yorkville and this well dressed girl came into the store and began approaching person after person... On-cue she would begin "crying" and asking if they could please spare $5 bucks for a GO ticket home. She managed to fool a few people... I saw her get a couple of $10's... then she scooted off into the mall and continued on there with her scam. At the rate she was going, she probably raked enough cash for a ticket to England.

There's a girl who did that on college and yonge too. I gave her a bit the first time, but she did the same thing another day not noticing or caring that she already scammed me. Actually this was well over a year ago and she wasn't well dressed, so maybe she's moved up in panhandling/scam status.
 

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