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rbt
Senior Member
Yep. That's correct.
ShonTron
Moderator
I understand the rationale, but come on. If you're mapping bus routes, include the ones that give a damn.
muller877
Senior Member
Another regional transit agency is in Norfolk County. I know you are excluding from your map but maybe have links in the FAQ so people know where they are:
http://www.ridenorfolk.ca/pages/1/Home
http://www.ridenorfolk.ca/download/files/2013Brochure/RideNorfolkBrochureFINALREVISEDapril24.pdf
It has M-F service in Simcoe. And then each day of the week it goes to different towns within Norfolk county. So those who can't drive can get to/from the hospital, go shopping, visit friends, etc. And reasonable price...$6
It's good to see that there are intracity/town/village services serving various county's throughout Ontario. For people in the GTA it may not seem like much to get from a town of 200 to a town of 5,000 but for those who cannot drive or cannot afford to drive it gives them an invaluable ability to remain in their community and have access to shopping and medical services.
And for those (like me) who are in a slow zone for DSL/Cable Internet in Toronto (max I can get is 10 megs)...these towns of 200-2000 people have or are getting fiber internet. Jealous!
https://www.norfolknews.ca/news-story/7097459-internet-connectivity-to-roll-through-rural-norfolk/
http://www.ridenorfolk.ca/pages/1/Home
http://www.ridenorfolk.ca/download/files/2013Brochure/RideNorfolkBrochureFINALREVISEDapril24.pdf
It has M-F service in Simcoe. And then each day of the week it goes to different towns within Norfolk county. So those who can't drive can get to/from the hospital, go shopping, visit friends, etc. And reasonable price...$6
It's good to see that there are intracity/town/village services serving various county's throughout Ontario. For people in the GTA it may not seem like much to get from a town of 200 to a town of 5,000 but for those who cannot drive or cannot afford to drive it gives them an invaluable ability to remain in their community and have access to shopping and medical services.
And for those (like me) who are in a slow zone for DSL/Cable Internet in Toronto (max I can get is 10 megs)...these towns of 200-2000 people have or are getting fiber internet. Jealous!
https://www.norfolknews.ca/news-story/7097459-internet-connectivity-to-roll-through-rural-norfolk/
ShonTron
Moderator
The problem with Norfolk's service is that it doesn't get you to larger centres, like Brantford. It might be okay if you can arrange an appointment at the local hospital in Simcoe to coincide with the bus times, but to see a specialist in Brantford or Hamilton, where you'll take whatever time they'll give you, means you're dependent on a ride or a taxi.
Deseronto Transit, whose hub is actually in Belleville, provides some service for employees and can get you to the main regional hub, five days a week.
Lernd2LuvTO
New Member
We identified 7 different types of "Toronto-Kitchener" runs - and could even be convinced to count this differently (e.g., some go to UWaterloo, some continue to London). It's almost like a numbered GO bus route where there are branches A-F, except that Greyhound doesn't identify them as such. I'm no 100% satisfied with the way that we've mapped this; maybe others have more elegant and functional solutions?
Lernd2LuvTO
New Member
ShonTron
Moderator
You don't need to send me back to the rationale I was referring to.
T.O.Fanatic
Active Member
Thanks for bringing up Ride Norfolk and Deseronto Transit; we had thought about those, as well as the "Rural partner routes" contracted with OC Transpo in Eastern Ontario. The problem with some of those operators is the extreme infrequency, at least in the case of Ride Norfolk and OC Transpo partners (especially for them, as they are less about connecting people to, say, Carleton Place throughout the day as they are about shuttling commuters to Ottawa in rush hours only, in the assumption that they will have cars for all other trips)
Deseronto Transit serves a fairly wide service area and at least their Prince Edward County route could be shown on the map......something to think about at least.
Deseronto Transit serves a fairly wide service area and at least their Prince Edward County route could be shown on the map......something to think about at least.
APTA-2048
Senior Member
This sounds familiar...
ShonTron
Moderator
Tear down the Wall
APTA-2048
Senior Member
Perhaps they can pull off a Wynne like the ONTC.
Lernd2LuvTO
New Member
It is disturbing to me/expected by me that the press release was heavy on costs and light on the implications of trashing the mobility options of Saskatchewanians.
Makes me wonder how Brad Wall will put "those funds...to better use elsewhere in government”?
T.O.Fanatic
Active Member
I'm sure Saskatchewan's road funding remains intact. Let those lousy bus riders hitch a ride instead. Typical thinking from 'wingers.
reaperexpress
Senior Member
Here's my first attempt at a schematic map for Ontario's intercity buses.
Since frequency varies so massively between the routes, I decided to vary the line thicknesses to reflect it.
The map includes Ontario Northland, since it operates much the same as a private intercity bus carrier. Originally I was going to include GO buses as well, but it was making the area around Toronto completely cluttered with thick green lines. I decided to instead just show GO and VIA connections using icons.
I omitted any routes which have fewer than 1 bus per day, such as the Ontario Northland service from Sudbury to Ottawa.
It's interesting to note that Guelph Central Station and Niagara Falls station are the only places where VIA, GO and intercity buses share a hub (or have adjacent hubs). Kitchener Central Station will join that list when it eventually gets built. I think that consolidating terminals could have a fairly significant benefit to all operators involved, since the easier connections open up a wider range of convenient origin-destination pairs.
Since frequency varies so massively between the routes, I decided to vary the line thicknesses to reflect it.
The map includes Ontario Northland, since it operates much the same as a private intercity bus carrier. Originally I was going to include GO buses as well, but it was making the area around Toronto completely cluttered with thick green lines. I decided to instead just show GO and VIA connections using icons.
I omitted any routes which have fewer than 1 bus per day, such as the Ontario Northland service from Sudbury to Ottawa.
It's interesting to note that Guelph Central Station and Niagara Falls station are the only places where VIA, GO and intercity buses share a hub (or have adjacent hubs). Kitchener Central Station will join that list when it eventually gets built. I think that consolidating terminals could have a fairly significant benefit to all operators involved, since the easier connections open up a wider range of convenient origin-destination pairs.
