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No.Could we expect that all streetcar lines that are not grade separated become transit malls?
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No.Could we expect that all streetcar lines that are not grade separated become transit malls?
Could we expect that all streetcar lines that are not grade separated become transit malls?
I wouldn’t be so sure. The King Street Pilot has been wildly successful for transit and has proven to be a strategy that can save Toronto from absolute gridlock while we try to catch up on our backlog of subway construction.
Once the new layout is in place and King attracts pedestrians and hop on/hop off transit to businesses on King, the opposition to replicating it on other streets will soften.
They’ve learned lessons how to roll something like this out. I’ve heard from the top of the food chain that this is going to be reproduced throughout the city.
The 501 Queen is probably next. It’s a heavily used transit corridor like the 504/514 and crosstown car traffic can shift to the Richmond/Adelaide corridor like on the King Street Pilot. It’s low having fruit.
501 Queen is the logical next step. But feel like it'd be wise to start phasing out Queen service between now and 2031 in preparation for RL construction. Bolster service on 505 Dundas and 506 Carlton, also go harder with 504 King improvements by expanding the "Pilot" east on King and up Broadview. Broadview station is vital for 504 and 505, as is the Broadview Ave as a corridor. With Queen down to buses or no service at all for key stretches, we need to have a plan in place today.
This is half-baked. The concept is excellent, the implementation is a disaster. And fugging Council and Mayor throw $1.5M at it, and wonder why it doesn't dance?
Jeezuz...
Could we expect that all streetcar lines that are not grade separated become transit malls?
Hmm. Since you didn't give a time period I'll say yes. We won't see it, but our descendants might.
If not, why?
Yes.Realistically with how this pilot is going, could we expect to see all streetcars lines that are not grade separated become transit malls within the next 10-20 years? If not, why?
Realistically with how this pilot is going, could we expect to see all streetcars lines that are not grade separated become transit malls within the next 10-20 years? If not, why?
Could we expect that all streetcar lines that are not grade separated become transit malls?
If it was up to me, I would prefer through lanes and no on street parking rather than no through lanes and some on street parking.I expect that curb parking will be eliminated on streetcar routes as the city battles with serious gridlock. That’ll allow for traffic mall models different than the one on King. As the fastest growing neighbourhood in the city, in addition to transit priority, it needs wider sidewalks, preventing the Spadina-like ROW model from being chosen. I can see a separated ROW being installed on College/Carlton. A lot of the infrastructure — including centre island stops — is already in place. What’s kept it from happening is the deeply engrained curb parking expectation.
If it was up to me, I would prefer through lanes and no on street parking rather than no through lanes and some on street parking.
I expect that curb parking will be eliminated on streetcar routes as the city battles with serious gridlock. That’ll allow for traffic mall models different than the one on King. As the fastest growing neighbourhood in the city, in addition to transit priority, it needs wider sidewalks, preventing the Spadina-like ROW model from being chosen.
I can see a separated ROW being installed on College/Carlton. A lot of the infrastructure — including centre island stops — is already in place. What’s kept it from happening is the deeply engrained curb parking.
In fact, the bus replacements for streetcars do. It was very shortsighted back in the day when the Bloor streetcar loop at Keele was torn up. One escalator is left on the south side of the station, the one on the north side is long gone, and unfortunately, the access for a streetcar loop to be re-established where it was is now blocked by development on the south side.The 506 really should connect to the subway at Keele in the west.