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Whether you intend that or not, it creates a problem as bad, or worse than the one you actually fear.

Living in constant fear/paranoia (while physically unharmed) is certainly not desirable, but I don't see how it's worse than having that kind of physical harm actually happen to oneself.

While the value is, even if real, probably unprovable. (incident type x that you worry about does not happen after said unit is deployed for the next 10 years). Wonderful, but the fact that no similar incident has happened in the preceding decade without any such action.........

To use a specific example, if "incident type x" is 9/11, it's true that no such incident happened in the several decades of commercial aviation before 9/11, but that doesn't mean it's safe to ever go back to pre-9/11 security going forward. In this case, the value of increased security is very much provable.

Though of course there's also the question of, even if incident type x is made essentially impossible, what can be done to prevent anyone out there from coming up with incident type y, z, etc, that are currently unheard of.

 

[picard102]

Much better than this happening. This story in particular enraged & shook me to my core (I'll admit I was even a bit shaky while typing this), and still leaves lasting fear for my and others' safety, because I have a dreadful feeling that this threat is far from over. What is it with people always complaining how "dystopian" enhanced safety measures feel, instead of complaining about the evil that made those safety measures necessary in the first place.

Which part of that article required police to cosplay soldiers on street corners to stop Mostafa Eldidi, and Ahmed Fouad Mostafa Eldidi?

Let me save you the time in coming up with some excuse, it was not required at all.

Security theater isn't security. Actual intelligence work is, as is evident from your own example.

To use a specific example, if "incident type x" is 9/11, it's true that no such incident happened in the several decades of commercial aviation before 9/11, but that doesn't mean it's safe to ever go back to pre-9/11 security going forward. In this case, the value of increased security is very much provable.

Outside of improved cockpit doors, musch of it has shown to be ineffective theater.

 

[ShonTron]

Pruning this thread as it’s going into a tangent where no new information will come and no minds will be changed.