DSCToronto
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Yes, 'consultation paused".
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evandyk
Senior Member
If they are actually going to do the parking levy, obviously they have to be coordinated. What will likely happen instead is they'll pause this, study the levy to death but no actually implement it, then we've lost two years on this as well.
Northern Light
Superstar
For clarity, the need to study aligning these 2 charges was flagged by Councillor Carroll during the City budget process.
Then I (among others) also chirped in on the problems, particularly w/the storm water charge.
Finally, the fact that that problematic pseudo Liberal curmudgeon Warren Kinsella managed to get the City some negative publicity around the world over its 'rain tax' all likely contributed to the need for a more public pause (the re-think was happening anyway)
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karledice
Senior Member
Cut service around parks e.g. the expensive to maintain Love Park with water fountains and features etc. should be cut
I heard a study done on parks to build it yield the same results as all other studies around park (why people use them and what people want in them)
And the consultant charged the city 500k....????
Save those dollars for more important things.
I heard a study done on parks to build it yield the same results as all other studies around park (why people use them and what people want in them)
And the consultant charged the city 500k....????
Save those dollars for more important things.
Northern Light
Superstar
jje1000
Senior Member
Aka opponents/social media have seized onto it as a "rain tax" and that has gained a memetic life of its own, so depsite Chow's assertions, it is being being paused to allow the media attention to focus elsewhere/quietly sent behind the shed to be shot.
It's just politics, next time get ahead of the press instead of allowing them to define the battlefield.
How hard would it have been to have named it the "floodwater prevention fee" instead? This adds a layer of linguistic armour around it (same as BLM), and allows people to immediately connect the dots.
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DSCToronto
Superstar
Yes, it could have been presented better but it is part of a whole array of projects and proposals dealing with climate change and it is wise if they are all aligned.
Northern Light
Superstar
As someone in on the discussions, nothing has been shot yet.
Stormwater charge is the same name Mississauga used when it passed a similar measure years ago without incident.
Dan416
Senior Member
I was already aware of the stormwater charge in Mississauga, but I admit I didn't know much about it.
In case anyone is interested, here is the link detailing it and there's an informative video about it too. TBH not even sure how something like this got so politicized, seems totally reasonable.
Stormwater charge
About the stormwater charge on your water bill. How the charge is calculated for residential and commercial properties, estimate your charge and report an error in your assessment.
www.mississauga.ca
jje1000
Senior Member
Yes, but memetic status is entirely unpredictable (who knew it would be seized on as the 'rain tax' by global social media), and dependent on a variety of contextual issues. In this case, Chow is continually viewed with suspicion by the right-wingers and the Sun (Kinsella particularly has a hate-on for her), and therefore the stormwater charge became a convenient platform of attack.
My opinion is that labeling potentially politically triggering things explicitly with linguistic armour helps diffuse the issue for low-information viewers.
christiesplits
Senior Member
By backing down on police cuts, Chow thought she could appease the police union for at least one year. She was wrong.
www.thestar.com
Mayor Olivia Chow weighs in on police union request that she condemn councillors over statement about protests
Mayor Olivia Chow weighs in on police union request that she condemn councillors over statement about protests
The Toronto Police Association is urging the mayor to criticize her colleagues, noting violence and threats against officers policing protests over the Mideast conflict.
www.thestar.com
allengeorge
Senior Member
I think most people would have predicted that…
evandyk
Senior Member
Cops are such crybabies. They bring out their horses to crap everywhere, then complain about it being returned to them?
Northern Light
Superstar
I had been told the Clarence Square encampment would be cleared by now; someone, it seems got cold feet.
However, the police did remove a couple of people running a sizable illicit drug ring out of the camp.
www.thestar.com
I noted in the past clear evidence of a criminal theft ring. (far more bikes than encampees by a few dozen at least)
This camp does need to be cleared, with compassion for any who are legitimately homeless, but it is clearly a material criminal enterprise more than emergency shelter.
However, the police did remove a couple of people running a sizable illicit drug ring out of the camp.
Two Toronto men charged after drug investigation at encampment at downtown Clarence Square Park
Police say they found drugs and a metal replica firearm while executing a search warrant on a number of tents in an encampment.
www.thestar.com
I noted in the past clear evidence of a criminal theft ring. (far more bikes than encampees by a few dozen at least)
This camp does need to be cleared, with compassion for any who are legitimately homeless, but it is clearly a material criminal enterprise more than emergency shelter.
kev1n1m
Active Member
Two drug dealers and a bike thief turn the entire encampment into a criminal operation? That's a bad take.I had been told the Clarence Square encampment would be cleared by now; someone, it seems got cold feet.
However, the police did remove a couple of people running a sizable illicit drug ring out of the camp.
Two Toronto men charged after drug investigation at encampment at downtown Clarence Square Park
Police say they found drugs and a metal replica firearm while executing a search warrant on a number of tents in an encampment.
I noted in the past clear evidence of a criminal theft ring. (far more bikes than encampees by a few dozen at least)
This camp does need to be cleared, with compassion for any who are legitimately homeless, but it is clearly a material criminal enterprise more than emergency shelter.