DSCToronto
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The City are planning to try new No Parking signage pilot project
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Northern Light
Superstar
DSCToronto
Superstar
Yes indeed and I hope they also look at SIMPLIFYING all traffic signage (i.e. simplifying the by-laws they are based on) and not have too many different schedules - Maybe one for Monday - Saturday and one for Sunday or one for Monday to Friday and then one for Saturday and Sunday. Too often there are minor differences in the active hours that simply clutter the signage and make them more confusing than they need to be.
zang
Senior Member
I hate "pilot projects". Ultimately, it's what the city wants to do. Fewer trial balloons; just do it.
Note; the signage itself is perfectly serviceable and certainly more readily visible and clear. I think the problem is that it's probably not going to stop a whole lot of people from parking illegally.
Northern Light
Superstar
Agreed.
I would like to see:
Rush Hours harmonized to 7-10am, and 3-7pm across the board for the purposes of restrictions.
For those that apply in rushhour+daytime I'd prefer 7 days a week, 7am-7pm (easy to remember)
For permit parking, (that's a big one with all sorts of odd times) I'd like to see it sorted to 11pm-7am on every road where it exists, no exceptions.
adys123
Active Member
This is where I'd jump on my 24-hour clock soapbox
- way easier to see at first glance. Also, we definitely need to get rid of the exceptions that land on the 30-minutes of every hour. Too much text
Towered
Superstar
Agreed. It blows my mind that the moment it turns 9 am, some asshole is allowed to park in the right lane of a crucial arterial like Dundas or Queen, blocking the lane and causing gridlock for everyone else trying to get to work. RUSH HOUR DOES NOT MAGICALLY END AT 9 AM - that's still the height of it. It drives me crazy that the city allows this.
DSCToronto
Superstar
YES!!! The more complicated the Rules are the more confusing the SIGNAGE becomes! Good to look at sign-design but at same time they MUST look at the RULES too!!!
Amare
Senior Member
It took them long enough.
I'm 99.9% sure this kind of template was sent to either the city or TPA about 10 or so years ago, in order for them to look into implementing. Glad the city decided to blow the dust of that binder and finally do something.
JasonParis
Moderator
These should be in 24-hour time. Less confusion, more concise. Sadly, both our city and the TTC seem averse to this, despite it being standard with Metrolinx.
Dan416
Senior Member
Honestly I think 24-hour time would be more confusing, not less. Then you need to mentally convert it to 12-hour time, which is not efficient and goes against the idea of making things easier to read. We don't live in Europe, 24-hour time is not the standard here, even though Metrolinx uses it.
Northern Light
Superstar
Possible, certainly anything new takes getting used to for some. But I favour the 24-clock as well, because it avoids any AM/PM confusion.
It should be said, in a City with multitudes of immigrants, many come from places where the 24-h clock is in more common usage.
Germany, Italy, France, Thailand, Israel and Argentina are among countries where the 24-hour clock is in wide use.
Closer to home, see Quebec. Your favourite primetime show on Radio Canada is Sundays at 22:00h.
We managed to adopt Metric, mostly, and to Celsius, by comparison, the 24-h clock is a breeze.
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Northern Light
Superstar
The Star is has been running a 'one great idea' series eliciting opinions on how to improve Toronto.
Regrettably, the 20 picked by Star editors as worthy of further consideration are mostly dumb beyond words......
www.thestar.com
Lets look at a few of these:
Iceway - by which the submitter means convert bike lanes, in winter, into ice skating tracks.
Ummm, put aside what cyclists would aside what cyclists would think of this......most cycle tracks are next to the curb and have the catch basins to drain melt water from the roads and sidewalks............to which we apply road salt...... never mind walking across them at intersections, or alternatively the skater has to walk on the un-iced paved road very block or so? Eesh
Independence from Ontario?
Likely wouldn't pass a referendum, but why would Otnario allow that when it doesn't allow Toronto to do Bike Lanes w/o provincial approval
Free Transit?
Upfront cost 1.3B per year in forgone fare revenue, while there would be some savings in cash handling, fare media, fare gates and enforcement, I wouldn't bank on more than 150M per annum; On the other hand, if ridership spiked by even 40% and you had to bolster service accordingly you're adding another 700M conservatively. ... From which sky did this manna arrive?
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Looking at the rest, filtering out the absurd, those with low benefits or benefits to too narrow a group, and then applying a lens of practicality and affordability..,...
We have two ideas:
Ban left turns on streetcar routes (streetcars excepted, presumably!)
More public washrooms.
Yes to both, shove the other 18 ideas in the shredder. LOL
Regrettably, the 20 picked by Star editors as worthy of further consideration are mostly dumb beyond words......
One Great Idea to make Toronto a better place to live? Here are 20 of the best for you to vote on
We received over 150 submissions from readers in our hunt for One Great Idea to make Toronto a better place to live. We’ve narrowed it down to the Top 20 — and now it’s up to you to vote for your favourites.
www.thestar.com
Lets look at a few of these:
Iceway - by which the submitter means convert bike lanes, in winter, into ice skating tracks.
Ummm, put aside what cyclists would aside what cyclists would think of this......most cycle tracks are next to the curb and have the catch basins to drain melt water from the roads and sidewalks............to which we apply road salt...... never mind walking across them at intersections, or alternatively the skater has to walk on the un-iced paved road very block or so? Eesh
Independence from Ontario?
Likely wouldn't pass a referendum, but why would Otnario allow that when it doesn't allow Toronto to do Bike Lanes w/o provincial approval
Free Transit?
Upfront cost 1.3B per year in forgone fare revenue, while there would be some savings in cash handling, fare media, fare gates and enforcement, I wouldn't bank on more than 150M per annum; On the other hand, if ridership spiked by even 40% and you had to bolster service accordingly you're adding another 700M conservatively. ... From which sky did this manna arrive?
***
Looking at the rest, filtering out the absurd, those with low benefits or benefits to too narrow a group, and then applying a lens of practicality and affordability..,...
We have two ideas:
Ban left turns on streetcar routes (streetcars excepted, presumably!)
More public washrooms.
Yes to both, shove the other 18 ideas in the shredder. LOL
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Northern Light
Superstar
^^^ There are actually a few good ideas in The Star's 30 runner ups:
www.thestar.com
Notable:
Banning on-street parking
and
Banning Short-term rentals (ie. Air BnB)
Edward Keenan: Here are some more very good ideas from Star readers to make Toronto better
We gave you our Top 20 "great" ideas for Toronto. Now, how about some more?
www.thestar.com
Notable:
Banning on-street parking
and
Banning Short-term rentals (ie. Air BnB)
DrivingAlong
New Member
The Star is has been running a 'one great idea' series eliciting opinions on how to improve Toronto.
Regrettably, the 20 picked by Star editors as worthy of further consideration are mostly dumb beyond words......
One Great Idea to make Toronto a better place to live? Here are 20 of the best for you to vote on
We received over 150 submissions from readers in our hunt for One Great Idea to make Toronto a better place to live. We’ve narrowed it down to the Top 20 — and now it’s up to you to vote for your favourites.
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Lets look at a few of these:
Iceway - but which the submitter means convert bike lanes, in winter, into ice skating tracks.
Ummm, put aside what cyclists would aside what cyclists would think of this......most cycle tracks are next to the curb and have the catch basins to drain melt water from the roads and sidewalks............to which we apply road salt...... never mind walking across them at intersections, or alternatively the skater has to walk on the un-iced paved road very block or so? Eesh
Independence from Ontario?
Likely wouldn't pass a referendum, but why would Otnario allow that when it doesn't allow Toronto to do Bike Lanes w/o provincial approval
Free Transit?
Upfront cost 1.3B per year in forgone fare revenue, while there would be some savings in cash handling, fare media, fare gates and enforcement, I wouldn't bank on more than 150M per annum; On the other hand, if ridership spiked by even 40% and you had to bolster service accordingly you're adding another 700M conservatively. ... From which sky did this manna arrive?
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Looking at the rest, filtering out the absurd, those with low benefits or benefits to too narrow a group, and then applying a lens of practicality and affordability..,...
We have two ideas:
Ban left turns on streetcar routes (streetcars excepted, presumably!)
More public washrooms.
Yes to both, shove the other 18 ideas in the shredder. LOL
My goodness that's a whole article of fail. Unfortunately, that is what happens when you gut a newspaper of all their journalists and editors.
What language is "Let's grown..." right there in a bold heading?
The gondolas to Toronto Island is hilarious. Wouldn't that cross a still-in-use shipping corridor to the eastern docks? <facedesk>
Terrible...:-(