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You guys probably know much better than me but could this inspire others in the area to have more aggressive leasing strategies if this one works out?
I never heard anything public about this but the owner of the old HSBC building right across the street from Energy Square did this exact same thing over the last few years. He bought it pretty cheap from Dream REIT about 5 or 6 years ago and has taken lower rates and even built a totally new space for a coffee shop. He did tell me that he had no debt on the building, which is pretty rare, and that allowed him an insane amount of flexibility in what he was able to do (No bank telling you what to do). As of last Christmas he had almost 90% occupancy in what really is a Class B building at best, but it is thriving and a pretty cool business hub n its own right.
 
He bought it pretty cheap from Dream REIT about 5 or 6 years ago and has taken lower rates and even built a totally new space for a coffee shop.

Perhaps it's not feasible, but it would be so nice if those 9 residential projects that received financial incentives from the city in 2021- most with CRUs - could do something similar as noted above and pass on some lower rates to help attract commercial tenants which in turn would support a more vibrant and livable street in each of those areas.
 
He, sorry I don't know his name, did it, so yes it is feasible. Maybe not in every situation, but in some. Yes I also agree it would be nice if those 9 projects could help contribute to improving things further and making more vibrant and livable streets in each of those areas. The first ones are harder, but improvement can become incremental and easier to build on as more spaces are occupied.
 
In theory it’s a great idea. The problem usually is with financing. The value of any commercial property is directly tied to the leases that generate the cash. So if you have a building that’s appraised, and likely financed, based on a certain lease rate (income generated), the minute that you accept a lower lease rate, the value of your property decreases for the term of that lease. It’s the reason that we don’t see empty CRU’s filled with tenants for years and years. Owners would rather hold out for higher lease rates than to take a lesser rate and ensure that the property is ultimately worth less. It’s the same theory that makes every commercial plaza chase after Tim Hortons, Subway, any Bank etc. those tenants are stable and pay the highest lease rates. If you are the owner, would you rather rent to Sam’s Donair shop or TD Bank? I’ll tell you what your banker would want.
 
In theory it’s a great idea. The problem usually is with financing. The value of any commercial property is directly tied to the leases that generate the cash. So if you have a building that’s appraised, and likely financed, based on a certain lease rate (income generated), the minute that you accept a lower lease rate, the value of your property decreases for the term of that lease. It’s the reason that we don’t see empty CRU’s filled with tenants for years and years. Owners would rather hold out for higher lease rates than to take a lesser rate and ensure that the property is ultimately worth less. It’s the same theory that makes every commercial plaza chase after Tim Hortons, Subway, any Bank etc. those tenants are stable and pay the highest lease rates. If you are the owner, would you rather rent to Sam’s Donair shop or TD Bank? I’ll tell you what your banker would want.
So they pretend those spaces that are sitting empty for years can theoretically generate a high lease rate, when it actuality the rate the market is paying for them is $NIL.

As for Sam's Donair, it could be a good stable tenant for years and I have seen Subways come and go. I think some of the assumptions these people operate with are flawed.

Now I don't really care how they manage or mismanage their businesses, but I do care about the impact a lot of empty space has on the area.
 
A few signs up on the new development on Gateway north of 34th ave
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Also the footings have been poured at the new development further north on the former hotel site across from Superstore.
 
In theory it’s a great idea. The problem usually is with financing. The value of any commercial property is directly tied to the leases that generate the cash. So if you have a building that’s appraised, and likely financed, based on a certain lease rate (income generated), the minute that you accept a lower lease rate, the value of your property decreases for the term of that lease. It’s the reason that we don’t see empty CRU’s filled with tenants for years and years. Owners would rather hold out for higher lease rates than to take a lesser rate and ensure that the property is ultimately worth less. It’s the same theory that makes every commercial plaza chase after Tim Hortons, Subway, any Bank etc. those tenants are stable and pay the highest lease rates. If you are the owner, would you rather rent to Sam’s Donair shop or TD Bank? I’ll tell you what your banker would want.
THIS! This problem is killing entrepreneurship in our country and needs to be addressed. The rental cost to open a business is too damn high so all we get are horrible chains. We have all these vacant CRUs across the city that sit empty but supply and demand is broken in how we finance/rent these spaces. IMO, a significant vacant space tax on CRUs to force landlords to rent out space cheaply so it can be used by the community would be one of the best things we could do to build vibrant communities, encourage entrepreneurship, and address social disorder.
 
THIS! This problem is killing entrepreneurship in our country and needs to be addressed. The rental cost to open a business is too damn high so all we get are horrible chains. We have all these vacant CRUs across the city that sit empty but supply and demand is broken in how we finance/rent these spaces. IMO, a significant vacant space tax on CRUs to force landlords to rent out space cheaply so it can be used by the community would be one of the best things we could do to build vibrant communities, encourage entrepreneurship, and address social disorder.
And too regarding rent, I believe there should be an elimination of percentage rent.
 
Question about a couple of sites:

The for sale sign now has sold, sold, sold stickers all over it. Any idea who bought this? It's zoned for DC2.


This site is now fenced and has what looks like a sales center on it. Any idea what that would be for?
 

This site is now fenced and has what looks like a sales center on it. Any idea what that would be for?

Current zoned for
(CNC) Neighbourhood Convenience Commercial Zone
(CSC) Shopping Centre Zone
(CB1) Low Intensity Business Zone
(CB2) General Business Zone

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Doesn't appear to be for anything residential unless a rezoning application was submitted
 
Current zoned for
(CNC) Neighbourhood Convenience Commercial Zone
(CSC) Shopping Centre Zone
(CB1) Low Intensity Business Zone
(CB2) General Business Zone

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Doesn't appear to be for anything residential unless a rezoning application was submitted
Nothing exciting—It's going to be an electric car charging station. Essentially a gas station for electric cars with some kind of store/waiting lounge.
 
Imperial Oil has been continuing with moving immense amounts of earth on the Texaco refinery/tank farm site. I have to stop for pics next time I'm out that way, it's almost shocking to see. I initially thought it was for reclamation efforts prior to building their renewable diesel plant, but that's being built within the Strathcona refinery.

So I'm not sure what they're up to. Maybe still reclamation efforts (lord knows there probably is substantial amounts required), but I've heard a rumor it's for another major rail terminal. Which would make sense, but IOL previously partnered with Pembina (or Kinder Morgan?) on that massive race track lookin' rail terminal off 17st. Nothing about it on AB Major Projects I can find.
 

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