UrbanJon
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RIP Moose Rail (not that it was ever a viable concept). But seriously, this will make a great trail.
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RIP Moose Rail (not that it was ever a viable concept). But seriously, this will make a great trail.
micheal_can
Senior Member
That just means right now it is dead. If you think trains can never return, talk to people living along the Havelock Sub.
Allandale25
Senior Member
DirectionNorth
Active Member
MOOSE is totally dead (if Stage 2 didn't kill it first).
rbt
Senior Member
MOOSE was stillborn; lacking investors, a business plan, and railway experience.
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micheal_can
Senior Member
Moose as they laid it out never had a chance. However, the idea of utilizing those corridors for some form of RT isn't dead. The bridge is being used till it is needed for a train bridge. Look a Via's plan to return the Havelock Subdivision back to revenue service.
kEiThZ
Superstar
Nobody disputes this. What was ridiculous was trying to bully the city into handing over the entire corridor, for what Mr. Potvin admitted to, would be used to blackmail the city into paying for their service. Remember, Moose wouldn't provide service until the community into a station catchment paid up.
Also, go check out his Twitter for the retweeting of anti-vax nonsense. These kooks always flock together.
micheal_can
Senior Member
I am not going to waste my time looking for things about him I don't like.
This reminds me of the Pickering Airport and the singular person that is trying to promote it with their own website, and their own findings. Refute any of them and he has nothing to stand on.
kEiThZ
Superstar
At least that kook didn't require federal intervention to be sent back into his basement.
micheal_can
Senior Member
That may be because this guy was putting more pressure in all the right spots. The methods used are there for the possibility of better utilization of infrastructure. The airport has nothing. It is private land that has been zoned for an airport. That isn't much to go on. The bridge could have been used for rail service, and there is a set way to bring it back from the current state.
lrt's friend
Active Member
The fact of the matter is that none of the ideas were realistic. It was pie in the sky.
kEiThZ
Superstar
Joseph Potvin (and MOOSE) could have have used the Prince of Wales bridge in about the same capacity as Mark Brooks (and Friends is the Pickering Airport) could use the Pickering Airport Lands to build an international airport.
The only difference is that the law gave the MOOSE trolls regulatory consideration that Mark Brooks could never get. Imagine there was a law that said if the government was disposing of land set aside for building an airport, they would have to consider anybody and everybody with interest in building an airport, irrespective of the capacity to build an airport. What do you think Mark Brooks would do with such a law?
micheal_can
Senior Member
The idea of using those rail corridors for commuter rail is a good idea that is something realistically possible.
It is that regulatory consideration that was dangerous.
Brooks would likely have his airport by now.
Nomad_87
Active Member
MOOSE was never going to happen. However, what can happen is Ottawa setting up their own regional network. Considering all the railroad ROWs they have acquired (The Trillium Line was only 1 example) they can have a true world class network without the need to bury everything like a certain city... not mentioning any names.....
Urban Sky
Senior Member
Sure, but what would be the downtown terminus, from which the majority of jobs and other main trip generators are easily reachable?