Hipster Duck
Senior Member
TK,
I find that very hard to believe. Sure, the avenues are speedways (at least on the west side), but the crosstown streets are considerably slower and you have to integrate them into your trip. Also, surface parking in New York is difficult, condo towers aren't ordered to build massive parking garages for their residents like Toronto, they don't have convenient service entranceways for garbage trucks and delivery vehicles, cul de sac entranceways for condo towers, and they don't have cheap, subsidized municipal parking a la Green P seemingly everywhere like in Toronto. Although Toronto is an urban city through and through, you could drive from place to place downtown like a suburbanite with not much trouble. You, of all people, would probably be the first to readily admit this to us in a transit vs. road debate. The only cities that made more concessions to the automobile in their downtown core were a priori non-urban automobile cities: Los Angeles, Houston, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Miami, etc.
I find that very hard to believe. Sure, the avenues are speedways (at least on the west side), but the crosstown streets are considerably slower and you have to integrate them into your trip. Also, surface parking in New York is difficult, condo towers aren't ordered to build massive parking garages for their residents like Toronto, they don't have convenient service entranceways for garbage trucks and delivery vehicles, cul de sac entranceways for condo towers, and they don't have cheap, subsidized municipal parking a la Green P seemingly everywhere like in Toronto. Although Toronto is an urban city through and through, you could drive from place to place downtown like a suburbanite with not much trouble. You, of all people, would probably be the first to readily admit this to us in a transit vs. road debate. The only cities that made more concessions to the automobile in their downtown core were a priori non-urban automobile cities: Los Angeles, Houston, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Miami, etc.