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Some Ford Hotel pics (thanks to BlogTO):

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Goldie said:
Speaking of fur coats:
I was certainly impressed by this fur coat worn by Anne Murray in the music-video posted recently on "Music videos featuring Toronto."

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...but not a REAL fur coat; that's cruel. :)
 
thecharioteer said:
And there was a lot of pressure insisting that the fashion industry needed new, modern industrial space in order to survive. The combination of this, plus the opportunity to do some social housing on the north end of the site doomed the building in the eyes of the extremely left-wing planners at City Hall who dominated planning in the King/Spadina and King/Niagara neighbourhoods in those days (these are the same planners who supported the Holiday Inn-on-King because it provided new industiral loft space on the lower levels.)
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I was wondering what you meant by "extremely left-wing"; probably more to the point was their being excessively beholden to old-school union-type issues. I guess more "Mayor Dennison" (NDP, lest we forget) than "Mayor Crombie" (Tory!) in spirit--and that's back when "fashion industry" still denoted a rag-trade factory-utilitarianism rather than the realm of Jeanne Beker and Robin Kay and what have you. Well, as it turned out, the building being replaced at Bathurst + King was, in its final usage, paradoxically a stronger forshadowing of the "fashion industry" future than its replacement. Who'd a thunk.

I guess the modern-day version of that old garment-trade demand for "modern industrial space" might be the pro-casino unions (y'know, "casinos provide jobs", etc)
 
"...but not a REAL fur coat; that's cruel."
QUOTE: Lone Primate.

It would be cruel for me to watch you being as semi-clad whilst I was wearing one of my beaver felted fedoras.
LOL.


Regards,
J T
 
adma said:
I was wondering what you meant by "extremely left-wing"; probably more to the point was their being excessively beholden to old-school union-type issues. I guess more "Mayor Dennison" (NDP, lest we forget) than "Mayor Crombie" (Tory!) in spirit--and that's back when "fashion industry" still denoted a rag-trade factory-utilitarianism rather than the realm of Jeanne Beker and Robin Kay and what have you. Well, as it turned out, the building being replaced at Bathurst + King was, in its final usage, paradoxically a stronger forshadowing of the "fashion industry" future than its replacement. Who'd a thunk.

I guess the modern-day version of that old garment-trade demand for "modern industrial space" might be the pro-casino unions (y'know, "casinos provide jobs", etc)
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I was actually being literal when I referred to "planners", meaning the Planning Department. The main players in the late 80's early 90's were deeply involved the King/Spadina Part II Secondary Plan (dating back to the late 70's), the main thrust being the preservation of industrial uses in the neighbourhood. One of the main issues at the time was the growing "de-industrialization" of the blocks closest to University Avenue and the growing demand of land owners to convert their buildings to office use (a process ironically beginning with Ed Mirvish buying the Royal Alexandra Theatre and surrounding buildings in the 60's and continued by Diamond & Myers converting the Eclipse Whitewear Building at King & John for their own offices in the early 70's). The planners were adamant in not allowing residential or office use in the hopes that low land values would sustain the fashion industry. Law offices were not allowed but architects were because their use was considered more "industrial" (same story in King/Parliament). When large pieces of land went into play, like the block that became Roy Thomson Hall and Metro Hall, as well as the CBC site, these blocks were just carved out of the Secondary Plan. Also don't forget that the site of what is now the ScotiaBank Theatre was originally the Dover Elevator plant. Its demise called into question appropriate uses for the area. Finally, who was the Councillor (originally for Metro) beginning in 1991? Olivia Chow, who (shall we say) was not the most innovative when it came to urban development and city planning. Anyone in the development industry who had to deal with the planners in those days experienced Alice in Wonderland everyday. The final emergence of the "Kings" plan under Barbara Hall and Paul Bedford, happened in spite of the area planners, not because of them.
 
J T CUNNINGHAM said:
"...but not a REAL fur coat; that's cruel."
QUOTE: Lone Primate.

It would be cruel for me to watch you being as semi-clad whilst I was wearing one of my beaver felted fedoras.
LOL.
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I could make a joke about the way a REAL man wears a beaver on his head but I think we've gone far enough down the rabbit hole as it is... :)
 
"I could make a joke about the way a REAL man wears a beaver on his head but I think we've gone far enough down the rabbit hole as it is... "
QUOTE:

After having succeeded with your rather crude joke, be a pet and repair again underground, whilst real men and women stand above wearing anything they want.

.J T
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J T CUNNINGHAM said:
"I could make a joke about the way a REAL man wears a beaver on his head but I think we've gone far enough down the rabbit hole as it is... "
QUOTE:

After having succeeded with your rather crude joke, be a pet and repair again underground, whilst real men and women stand above wearing anything they want.

.J T
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JT, before you carry on wasting a good vintage bottle of Being a Jackass on me, you do realize that the "but not a real fur coat, that's cruel" crack was simply a reference to a Canadian song lyric that was tongue-in-cheek to begin with, right? I mean, as opposed to an attempt on my part to actually start a gratuitous argument with visitors from the 19th century backwoods or something. Just so you know.
 
Lone Primate said:
JT, before you carry on wasting a good vintage bottle of Being a Jackass on me, you do realize that the "but not a real fur coat, that's cruel" crack was simply a reference to a Canadian song lyric that was tongue-in-cheek to begin with, right? I mean, as opposed to an attempt on my part to actually start a gratuitous argument with visitors from the 19th century backwoods or something. Just so you know.
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JT seems like a fantastic guy, so does lone. That said, some of what might be said, is not always taken in light. Guys, BE NICE! it's the internet. We don't always mean what we say, and we don't always say what we mean!
 
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