khris
Senior Member
Completely agree with you. They're just awful, and I'd like to see them gone. Same with the tour buses.
Tewder
Senior Member
Heaven forbid there should be some vitality, colour and character in a civic space. The tour busses are a nice reminder that people actually choose to come here!
DSC
Superstar
Tour buses need to park somewhere close to major tourist sites, like NPS - I think the plans call for more reserved bus parking on Bay Street. Food trucks presumably want to be where there are customers but I too find the low-end trucks at NPS (and on Front at the Convention Centre) out of place. The City DOES have rules as to where truck can park - see: http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/c...nnel=7d931bbdf1595410VgnVCM10000071d60f89RCRD I am not sure I want the City to somehow differentiate between low-end and high-end food trucks so if any trucks are allowed to park on Queen @ NPS we will probably see a continuation of the current situation. In fairness, they do a very good business (while the new Hero Burger at the skate rental building at the reflecting pool seems deserted) so they are clearly serving a need
Tewder
Senior Member
Somebody already raised the issue of the bureaucracy surrounding food trucks. This probably explains why the standards we see are so low as nobody wants to invest in this minefield. I agree there should be regulations but the objective shouldn't be kill off the business model.
salsa
Senior Member
Progress on the Queen St side:
Torontovibe
Senior Member
What are those stubs along Queen Street and why are they in the middle of the sidewalk? (strange, lol) Also why not make the planter ledges taller, so people could sit on them? (comfortably)
yyzhyd
Active Member
The blocks are dual function vehicle barrier / seating.
Agree that they probably could have been placed a little further in from the curb based on the picture but not sure if it's really going to impede pedestrian flow.
dt_toronto_geek
Superstar
Council raised concern and debated the food trucks on Queen Street late last winter/early spring. There was a Motion, something to the effect, for the City Manager to prepare a report along with Traffic Services as to what Council can do (legally) to remove the food trucks out in front once permits expire. The Motion was much more detailed, but they are looking into it as it is recognized that they don't exactly offer a great first impression to this important civic space.
raptor
Senior Member
How about putting a "No Stopping" or "No Parking" sign on Queen st?
Automation Gallery
Superstar
They look too low to be seating, don't they? They are too close to the street to make that particularly comfortable anyway. There's plenty of sidewalk space to the north of them though, so I'm not worried about east-west pedestrian flow being impacted to any degree. I do know a number of people who won't walk on grates though, thinking they might fall through, so it will be interesting to see how that vent affects pedestrian flow.
In regards to the planter ledges, yes it probably would have been a good idea to make them, or some of them, a good height to sit on.
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picard102
Senior Member
And women with heals.
Hmm, yeah, true. That's another category of pedestrian I was not referring to myself.
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Torontovibe
Senior Member
Those stubs can't be the finished product. They are too low to the ground and too small to sit on. There must be a long, wooden bench portion going on top or something like that. There has to be some method in their madness. I just can't believe something this planned out would have something as stupid and useless as stubs that are too uncomfortable for anyone to use. There is no way this city is that dysfunctional.
AndreaPalladio
Senior Member
In person, though, they seem about the right height to perch on to nibble one's poutine.