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Can Fast Hovercraft Service Between U.S. And Toronto Stay Afloat?

Wednesday April 9, 2008
CityNews.ca Staff

It didn't work once.

It didn't work twice.

But is the third time the charm? A group known as HTS - or Hover Transit Services - is sure they have a plan to succeed where others have failed. Their goal: reintroduce the fast crossing service between Toronto and Rochester that proved such a dismal failure in both 2004 and 2006. That one used a multi-million dollar ferry with all the bells and whistles.

This one proposes to employ a simpler but still state-of-the-art hovercraft to glide along Lake Ontario taking you from here to there and back again.

The company is planning to buy an existing vessel that used to cross the English Channel over to France but has been sitting in a marine museum for the past eight years. Executives have apparently been in discussion with the Toronto Port Authority about what it would take to launch such a venture and are trying to get the cooperation of both Rochester politicians and officials here.

So what would this venture look like and how would it differ from the previous concept that sank twice in choppy financial waters?

The hovercraft would hold 400-600 people, carry 55 cars or four tour buses, and make room for cargo to help bring in some extra revenue. It would cost a lot less than the old ferry service - only about $30 each way and touts the use of biodiesel fuel as being environmentally friendly.

The entire trip would take just 75 minutes, but unlike the ferry, there won't be a movie theatre or fancy restaurants on board. This journey would simply be a means to an end - getting you where you're going.

"Passengers will be treated to spacious reclining chairs, with an option of business class service," reads the company's official plan. "The hovercraft will be equipped with Wi-Fi. Seat backs will be equipped with video monitors for passenger viewing and entertainment pleasure ... A simple selection of food and beverages will be available as a convenience to the customer aboard ship, although HTS anticipates little revenue from the onboard sales of such items, since due to the short trip the passenger will barely have time to enjoy their hot beverage once aboard."

Organizers think you'll like it, because cross border shopping opportunities have never been better thanks to the rise of the Canadian dollar. And it's interesting to hear their pitch for why U.S. residents will want to come here.

"American shoppers will be drawn to the sophisticated shopping opportunities in downtown Toronto that would otherwise require a trip to Manhattan, including the Eaton Centre, the Bay, and an eclectic collection of specialty shops. Seniors will also be attracted to opportunities for low-cost pharmaceuticals that are available in Canada."

But it's not just the U.S. that's in their sights. Those behind the plan think they have a better way of getting to and from T.O. for commuters in outlying areas and it doesn't include either the TTC or GO. "If two hovercrafts are put into service, both Hamilton and Oshawa could be served," their outline states.

So will it work this time and will there be enough passengers to keep this service afloat? If it gets approved, the hovercraft could be gliding your way as soon as next March. But if not, HTS has another plan in mind and seems determined to take its business idea somewhere.

"If the ridership does not prove sufficient during the winter, HTS will investigate relocating the hovercraft to a winter home such as Key West, the Bahamas or the Caribbean," it concludes. "A repositioning cruise could be offered to "snowbirds" and their automobiles heading for Florida for wintertime. Stops at East Coast ports would be provided along the way."

But that journey of a thousand kilometres depends a lot on what officials here say. It will be another two to three months before we know if it's a cushion of air - or a lot of hot air.

See HTS's ful proposal here.
 
http://www.eyeweekly.com/city/scrollingeye/article/23516

Rochester ferry revival
Today on the Scroll: Cross-border boat ambition not dead yet thanks to an entrepreneur who sees the future in an old British hovercraft.
BY Marc Weisblott April 08, 2008 17:04


Tor-Buff-Chester is the name of the key US megaregion identified by Toronto resident Richard Florida in his new book Who’s Your City?, ranked in his top 10 alongside Char-lanta, SoFlo and Hou-Orleans. Florida cites Rochester’s role as “a leading centre for opto-electronic and research intensive companies,†despite its shrinking population — and the fact that no one in Toronto gives the city any thought.

A new kind of courtship was expected to take shape in the summer of 2004, though, when a $42.5 million 770-passenger fast ferry called The Breeze started running between Toronto and Rochester. Jan Wong of The Globe and Mail was dispatched to survey what was waiting on the other side, and thought the place too beleaguered, infuriating the mayor who pinned all his hopes on the endeavor.

The service ran for 80 days before it was docked for being deeply in debt, and ordered impounded by a federal judge — the privately-run service had let down the government who bet $30 million of its own dollars on its transformative potential. So, the City of Rochester bought the catamaran for $32 million the following year, and renamed it The Cat. Within months, they lost $10 million more, and a boat that couldn’t stay afloat. Customs costs and regulations on the Canadian side were partly blamed because… well, why not?

Landings constructed on both ends of the Tor-Chester route were forced to languish — though at least, unlike in Rochester, the one constructed by the Toronto Port Authority at Cherry Street made no promises to fast-food franchisees. The vessel itself — as apparently luxurious and comfortable as originally promised — was announced as sold to a British firm for use on the English Channel, but was ultimately bought by German company to run between Spain and Morocco.

Wanting to do something with the facilities, and satisfy whatever demand still exists for a Toronto-to-Rochester route, a Request For Qualifications was issued last month by both sides. They got one proposal — and it involves a hovercraft.

Hover Transit Services is promising a 75-minute trip between the two cities that they claim will be successful, using a hovercraft called the Princess Anne, built in 1968 for use between England and France until the Chunnel took its clientele away. The company also has access to the Princess Margaret, a second model that can be used for backup. An average fare of $30 per passenger is proposed for the journey that will hold 400 to 600 passengers and 55 cars.

“The hovercraft will be equipped with Wi-Fi,†reads the proposal. “Seat backs will be equipped with video monitors for passenger viewing and entertainment pleasure (similar to JetBlue). A simple selection of food and beverages will be available to the customer aboard ship, although HTS anticipates little revenue from the onboard sales of such items, since due to the short trip the passenger will barely have time to enjoy their hot beverage once aboard.â€

Markets being served by the hovercraft would include shoppers and day-trippers, tourists and fun seekers and air travelers looking for a cheaper American flight from Rochester, or European access from Toronto. Cargo logistics are also promised. The environmental and economic benefits are detailed, along with an improvement on a ferry that proved to be no quicker than a drive.

The company is run by Dale Wilson of Bolton, Ontario — who didn’t respond to messages today — and his ambition to bring the hovercrafts to Toronto were first stated in a story in The Guardian in May 2005, even if he didn’t necessarily have Rochester in mind. Alan Knauf, a Rochester-based lawyer working with HTS, defended the idea to local reporters questioning its viability, explaining how the venture was viable because the hovercraft was used, refurbished and ready for action.

Paul Morrell, the port operations manager for the City of Rochester, is confident there won’t be a repeat of the ferry debacle, as this is a private venture.

“We’re not going to give this the go-ahead until we’ve surveyed if there’s a customer base and any market feasibility,†he says. “Now that the proposal has been submitted, we’ll try and figure out what can work and what cannot.â€

The editorial board of the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle didn’t even trash the idea outright — although they pointed out that a city facing a $22.4 million budget deficit and planning for potential layoffs need to proceed with caution.

From the other side of the route, Toronto Port Authority harbourmaster Angus Armstrong doesn’t sound too optimistic: “Hovercrafts are pretty noisy affairs. There are definitely navigation issues, given how they’re not as maneuverable, and also environmental concerns. Fuel would be pretty expensive, too.â€

Then there’s the matter of why anyone from Toronto would want to go to Rochester for fun. The best-known employers, Kodak and Xerox, were throttled by changing technology. Jan Wong’s tour of the city highlighted the Garbage Plate (a diner menu item consisting of home fries and macaroni salad topped with a cheeseburger or hot dog), a 30-metre waterfall and the Wegmans supermarket where locals supposedly bring their out-of-town guests.

Rochester does boast a Lilac Festival in May, a Jazz Festival in June, and native son Lou Gramm (formerly of Foreigner) is singing at the Taste of Rochester.

And it was the birthplace of Susan B. Anthony and Wendy O. Williams, Philip Seymour Hoffman and John Lithgow, Kristen Wiig of Saturday Night Live and porn star Savanna Samson, Cab Calloway and Tyson Beckford, Kim Gordon and Emma Goldman. Who wouldn’t want to be around that Creative Class?

What, you mean they all left? And they did it without a boat ejecting high-pressure air over the water, even though the first one was launched 50 years ago.

Despite all of its trials and tribulations — like high rates of murder, high-school dropouts and poverty rates — Richard Florida called Rochester the fourth most innovative city in America in The Rise of the Creative Class, while declaring it the 25th most creative. Florida is sticking to his vision, even though he now suggests a more appropriate name for the region might be Tor-Buff-looMon-tawa.
 
Wow, looks great, at least on paper. How do they plan on doing it faster though, wasn't the ferry slow because of a speed-limit?
 
If it goes 80 to 90 Miles per hour it will arrive at the other end in just over an hour. I did not take ferry the first time, or the second time -- but for $60 round trip -- I really think I might take this thing if it were easily accessible :p
 
What kind of city do we live in where we have two proposals for fantabulous high-speed boats that transport us to a fading rust belt backwater, but absolutely no proposals for electric regional rail service across a metropolitan area of 7 million people?
 
What kind of city do we live in where we have two proposals for fantabulous high-speed boats that transport us to a fading rust belt backwater, but absolutely no proposals for electric regional rail service across a metropolitan area of 7 million people?

I'd like to know the answer to that myself.
 
I'd like to know the answer to that myself.

Because the government of Toronto does not appreciate public private partnerships - which means no private company is going to lobby that hard for something that is a onetime - competitive open bid. Even if the company proposes something, they will not be likely to win.
 
What kind of city do we live in where we have two proposals for fantabulous high-speed boats that transport us to a fading rust belt backwater, but absolutely no proposals for electric regional rail service across a metropolitan area of 7 million people?


Yeah, you just wait! Soon the Kodak film factories will be converted to cheap loft spaces, and Torontonians priced out of the housing market will be commuting every day by high speed hoovercaft.


Long live Torbuffchester!!!


Geez, for a moment I sounded a little like caveatemptor.
 
Yeah, you just wait! Soon the Kodak film factories will be converted to cheap loft spaces, and Torontonians priced out of the housing market will be commuting every day by high speed hoovercaft.

nuts. that's what Hamilton is for. houses for $110k is the rumour...

while I hear there is going to be a GO/VIA train platform near LIUNA after all, somebody is going to eventually dredge up those old schemes of ferries between Oshawa, the big TOe and the Hammer's harbour-- what a string o' pearls...

don't forget the former minister of MTO urged research into "GO boats"

BTW, I recall some self-loathing Rochesteranian calling his site cRotchFester...
 
Great, so we might be getting Britain's hand me downs.

Yeah, do you suppose they'll catch fire like the submarines we acquired from the oh-so-grateful-for-your-timely-help-in-two-world-wars Mother Country?
 
Okay, so a bit of quick Googling reveals the following:

1) These are the largest and most famous hovercraft in the world.

2) They are 40 years old.

3) There are only two left in existence, the other four having been destroyed or broken up for spares.

4) They guzzle gas. Each channel crossing used a ton (or perhaps a tonne).

5) They don't appear to dock at slips, like the kind that were so expensively built for the ferry. Hovercraft get beached on dry land.

6) The ride was apparenty rough.

7) They're loud. Guess who's not going to like that?

So, on the upside, if this worked, it would be a magnificent tourist attraction, maybe even a local icon.

On the downside, however, it will never work. Does Mr. Guy From Boulton have a plan for the care and provisioning of giant last-of-its-kind 40-year-old hovercraft? Who's going to maintain the things? These things are, very literally, museum pieces. I know, I know, the last ferry was brand-new, and that didn't work out so great either. Maybe try for something in the middle? Broken-in but not geriatric?

Wait, are we sure Adam Giambrone doesn't want them to run back and forth to Scarborough?
 

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