MetroMan
Senior Member
Well, out of the Miller supporters, the obvious successor is the very popular Joe Pantalone. Of course he won't run against Miller but if the Mayor retires after a 3rd term, Pantalone will likely get his support.
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Well, out of the Miller supporters, the obvious successor is the very popular Joe Pantalone. Of course he won't run against Miller but if the Mayor retires after a 3rd term, Pantalone will likely get his support.
Mystic Point
Active Member
As long as the Mayor is just one more vote on City Council and as long as Toronto is basically an orphan child of the Province, it won't make any difference who the Mayor is.
Barack Obama could become Mayor of Toronto. And nothing would change.
The city is poised spiral down further and further.
Into what, is anyone's guess.
Barack Obama could become Mayor of Toronto. And nothing would change.
The city is poised spiral down further and further.
Into what, is anyone's guess.
christiesplits
Senior Member
Thompson runs his mouth too much... and his past proposal for teenage curfews and suggestions that police officers should have the right to approach black youth randomly will come back to haunt him. Crime fighting has been his forte, and I doubt it will be the most important issue concerning voters next year.
MetroMan said:
I doubt the public would be supportive of Miller's right hand man on council.
Northern light said:
Vaughan would be tagged as a downtown-centric, snobbish carpetbagger who schmoozes with suburban-hating constituents over coffee from his taxpayer-subsidized expresso machine. He has the media experience, but he would be crushed north of St. Clair.
I think you're in the right direction with Carroll, or any progressive outside the old city boundaries.
John Fillion is a name that has not been brought up, he has an impressive resume and was the strongest opposition to the Lastman regime back in his North York City Council days. He represents the Yonge/Sheppard/NYCC area so is no stranger to development and planning issues. Plus, he isn't as tied to unions as his Old Toronto allies, which would be a huge handicap for any progressive running for office in the next few cycles. Heck, Giambrone, Fletcher, Davis and McConnell can kiss any mayoral hopes goodbye if anti-union sentiment continues to rise.
Eug
Senior Member
Miller, unions bashed in poll
The only thing that angers Torontonians more than its mayor, according to a new Toronto Star/Angus Reid poll, is the city's striking unions.
The unflattering results, which show that 67 per cent disapprove of Mayor David Miller's handling of the strike while 76 per cent disapprove of the two striking unions, come as the walkout enters its 19th day and the mounds of trash grow taller and more putrid.
The only thing that angers Torontonians more than its mayor, according to a new Toronto Star/Angus Reid poll, is the city's striking unions.
The unflattering results, which show that 67 per cent disapprove of Mayor David Miller's handling of the strike while 76 per cent disapprove of the two striking unions, come as the walkout enters its 19th day and the mounds of trash grow taller and more putrid.
christiesplits
Senior Member
kEiThZ
Superstar
Miller deserves his fate. He should have been tackling the rapidly growing payroll a lot earlier. And he should have communicated with the unions the importance of getting the city's fiscal house in order much earlier as well. Instead, he gave the first few at the bargaining table raises above inflation, instituted a 'fair wage' clause that was a thinly veiled effort to avoid contracting out, and promised some of them that regardless of productivity or performance they would be guaranteed to be the highest paid in the region. He squandered the new revenue powers given to him by the province and got himself into the bind that he is in today. For the sake of the city, I wish him luck. But for what's transpired he should shoulder his fair share of the blame.
Therion
Senior Member
This. Your reap what you sow. He may be a friend of the unions, but the unions are friends of no one.
adma
Superstar
Didn't Filion have some kind of divorce flareup a few years ago? And when it comes to "strongest opposition", don't forget that it was in fact Howard Moscoe who was long regarded as the "anti-Mel" par excellence (though he was Metro, not City Council). Also wonder whether the rather ambiguous outcome of the street-food issue might wash up on Filion.
Still have a hunch about Thompson; and in the end, the "tough on crime" handicap may be no more of a handicap than the "socialist mayoral candidate" handicap was to Miller...
MetroMan
Senior Member
^ upgrade your hunch to ... what comes after a hunch? Thompson is a serious contender.
He's working out the details and talking to the appropriate people as we speak. Don't believe me? Ask people he's close to @ CityHall: they're making no big secret about it.
I know for a matter of fact that, unless there are any major setbacks, Thompson will run.
I know the details of how he will announce his bid: he won't come straight out and announce that he's a candidate for 2010. He will have certain councillors and the Toronto elite (including some members of the media via articles in newspapers) calling for him to run and he will "humbly" accept the task that "Toronto" is requesting him to take on.
He's working out the details and talking to the appropriate people as we speak. Don't believe me? Ask people he's close to @ CityHall: they're making no big secret about it.
I know for a matter of fact that, unless there are any major setbacks, Thompson will run.
I know the details of how he will announce his bid: he won't come straight out and announce that he's a candidate for 2010. He will have certain councillors and the Toronto elite (including some members of the media via articles in newspapers) calling for him to run and he will "humbly" accept the task that "Toronto" is requesting him to take on.
lordmandeep
Banned
I never hear anyone say "eh, I have not heard of a murder for two weeks in Toronto, crime is down I think"
Its more like they never notice when there is big lull and then 3 people get murdered in 2 days and then "crime is bad, people get murdered everyday"
I remember during the summer of the gun, some residents were like people are getting murdered everyday. If that was so there would be 365 murders+ a year.
jade_lee
Active Member
Miller was smart to show the public a public work force's contract offer. The public should have a say in how much a public funded work force is paid. The climate is perfect at the moment not to cave to any demands of the irrational kind. Sick time is a real problem in the public service and every public servant knows this.
Bob Rae could have achieved way more when it came to how he dealt with the civil servants but the right was not on board and the unions sure did get a nice taste of the right via Mike (resigning) Harris .
Miller makes me proud that I was born in Toronto. I don't know how he tolerates the sharp right turn he has to navigate daily.
The nice thing about a young major is that they can stick around in both good and bad times.
My son was in Toronto and he told me he watched a camera crew film a news reporter standing in front of a tall pile of garbage reporting on the strike but that out of view there was no other garbage. I suspect it was looked good on television to those supporting the "Miller needs to get tough on the city workers" ideology but in fact the public walks around and knows how a garbage strike goes......stinky but it ends.
Bob Rae could have achieved way more when it came to how he dealt with the civil servants but the right was not on board and the unions sure did get a nice taste of the right via Mike (resigning) Harris .
Miller makes me proud that I was born in Toronto. I don't know how he tolerates the sharp right turn he has to navigate daily.
The nice thing about a young major is that they can stick around in both good and bad times.
My son was in Toronto and he told me he watched a camera crew film a news reporter standing in front of a tall pile of garbage reporting on the strike but that out of view there was no other garbage. I suspect it was looked good on television to those supporting the "Miller needs to get tough on the city workers" ideology but in fact the public walks around and knows how a garbage strike goes......stinky but it ends.
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kEiThZ
Superstar
The polls really seem to be hammering Miller. And if he doesn't come out of this strike with real concessions, he's done. I don't see how he can balabce the books without a massive tax increase or huge cuts to services.
jade_lee
Active Member
Miller has Harper to show him....lol
Glen
Senior Member
Those are coming regardless of the outcome of this strike.
kEiThZ
Superstar
The strike ain't helping the total tab though. Whatever he concedes to these strikers is only going to end up adding to the tab.