voxpopulicosmicum
Senior Member
Honestly, from what I've read above, I don't think any info he provides that is reasonably available will convince you. He's given his opinion that the police are both effective and not generally corrupt. He's not stating this as substantiated fact, but as an opinion.
Chief Blair certainly seems to be making positive changes. It is beyond debate that the demographic make-up of the police is changing to reflect the population of the city. These are the types of arguments that would seem to support the notion that the Toronto police are doing a good job.
But I don't see how the police are a deterrent to the criminal potentiality of dissaffected youth. Even the police will tell you that the answer to youth criminality is enhanced opportunity, not the threat of incarceration.
In support of his opinion that the Toronto police are doing their job well, etc., Lordmandeep cited the Toronto Police's effectiveness as a deterrent to crime that would have been, but for the police, committed by the city's marginalized, immigrant youths. I questioned how that could be a sufficient basis for a positive opinion of the Toronto Police, and gave some other arguments that might be more convincing, in the hopes that still further arguments could be advanced.
Is it really fair to say that my mind is closed to the possibility that the police are doing a good job?