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gabe said:
No suprise here, the capacity was terrible long before the pandemic.

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Ontario hits ‘critical’ 150 COVID-19 patients in ICU, may result in cancelled surgeries | Globalnews.ca

Ontario now has 150 COVID-19 patients in its intensive care units - a key threshold that government projections have indicated could lead to cancelled surgeries.
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Wondering if the Cortellucci Vaughan Hospital can open this year, instead of early 2021?

See link.

"A part of Mackenzie Health, the hospital will open its doors to patients in early 2021 after training thousands of staff, testing hundreds of pieces of equipment and computer systems and practising how to safely deliver care in a new building."
 
Richard White said:
Cynthia Mulligan of Citynews is quoting government sources on twitter stating that schools won't be closed during a lockdown and that a lockdown would now would be different than in march because "officials know more about the spread"
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Gotta keep the babysitter's for parents.
 
This is by no means a comment to diminish the importance of pandemic measures, protocols or containment; however, we should start to contextualize the reported covid-19 impacts to think about how and when the pandemic would be considered over. Covid-19 will NOT be driven into extinction so ultimately lifting public health measure even after mass vaccination can and should tolerate a certain amount of cases and deaths per day.

Influenza can kill about 3000 Canadians per year. Case counts and deaths are largely seasonal peaking in the winter months. Back of envelope a "normal" amount of tolerated influenza deaths per day in Canada is about 17 throughout flu season and 110 lab reported cases per day (very few infected people probably tested). Ontario's proportional share of this is 6-7 deaths on 42 lab reported cases per day. Maybe no influenza deaths should be tolerated but the point is that 6-7 per day in Ontario averaged over flu season is "normal".

Clearly, from the number you can see that COVID-19 is MUCH worse than Influenza. Even with restrictive health measures we still can't keep Covid-19 deaths at flu levels; however, the idea that covid-19 should be driven to zero is frankly not reasonable or credible at this point. Even countries that have almost done so will see a flood of covid-19 as public health measures are lifted throughout the world, unless they want to continue covid-19 restrictions indefinitely.
 
The Spanish Flu in 1918 killed 50,000 Canadians (population at the time: 8,788,483). So far, COVID-19 has killed 11,265 (population today: 37,742,154).

The Spanish Flu was followed by the 1920's economic boom.
 
Good article on FT (free to read): https://www.ft.com/content/0dec0291-2f72-4ce9-bd9f-ae2356bd869e?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Some great zingers in that article "The kids aren’t alright: How Generation Covid is losing out"

“We are not in this together, millennials have to take the brunt of the sacrifice in the situation,” said Polina R, 30, from Montreal, Canada. “If you won’t watch out that we don’t end up jobless and poorer, why should we protect you?”

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During the peak of the lockdown in the spring, Polina from Montreal had friends over. “I did not follow recommendations,” she said. “I travelled out of the country twice and have gone to bars, restaurants and theatres a dozen times.

“My risk tolerance is high and I refuse to stop enjoying life when no one has a plan and the people in power have no skin in the game.”
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Thanks Polina. The more you keep spreading this, the less likelihood jobs will come back so you can keep shooting yourself in the foot.
 
Rimsky44 said:
Good article on FT (free to read): https://www.ft.com/content/0dec0291-2f72-4ce9-bd9f-ae2356bd869e?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Some great zingers in that article "The kids aren’t alright: How Generation Covid is losing out"



Thanks Polina. The more you keep spreading this, the less likelihood jobs will come back so you can keep shooting yourself in the foot.
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I wonder if she has any elderly relatives or immunocompromised friends. It seems she didn't let a minor inconvenience like a pandemic cramp her style.

I also wonder how this generation would handle a repeat of WWII at home. Not so much in the way of travel restrictions, but things like food vouchers, rationing, etc. Oh, and your 20-something friends going on a trip and never coming home.
 
Toronto and Peel going into a variation of lockdown Sunday into Monday at midnight.

Ontario Newsroom

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From the release:

Measures under Lockdown include, but are not limited to:
  • Schools, before and after school programs, and child care will remain open;
  • Post-secondary schools open for virtual learning with some limited exceptions for training that can only be provided in-person, such as clinical training or training related to a trade;
  • No indoor organized public events or social gatherings except with members of the same household. Individuals who live alone, including seniors, may consider having exclusive, close contact with one other person;
  • Outdoor organized public events or social gatherings limited to a maximum of 10 people;
  • Wedding services, funeral services and religious services, rites or ceremonies where physical distancing can be maintained can have up to 10 people indoors or 10 people outdoors;
  • Retail permitted to be open for curbside pick-up or delivery only, with certain exceptions such as for supermarkets, grocery stores, pharmacies, hardware stores, discount and big box retailers selling groceries, beer, wine and liquor stores, safety supply stores, and convenience stores, which will be allowed to operate at 50 per cent capacity;
  • Restaurants, bars, and food and drink establishments will only be able to provide takeout, drive-through and delivery. Indoor and outdoor dining services are prohibited;
  • Personal care services closed;
  • Casinos, bingo halls and other gaming establishments closed; and
  • Indoor sports and recreational facilities, including pools, closed with limited exceptions.
 
Restaurants, personal care services, stores are going to be booming outside of Peel and the GTA. You can drive 30 mins down the street to get a haircut/shop/ dine
 
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