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August 3, 2005
Rethinking Skyways and Tunnels
By PATRICK O'GILFOIL HEALY
Like many failed ideas, the skywalks in Cincinnati were built with only the best intentions.

They were dreamed up in a fit of 1960's urban renewal - a development guru's idea for making downtown Cincinnati easier to navigate and easier to enjoy. The city erected a small network of second-story bridges that spanned the streets and linked offices and hotels, allowing people to stroll through downtown without stepping onto the sidewalk.

Two dozen cities across the country pursued similar plans over the last 30 years, building skywalks and underground retail catacombs to keep businesses and stores from fleeing to suburbs and shopping malls. They ensconced shoppers and office workers in well-lighted, climate-controlled environments and insulated them from crime, cold and urban blight.

But now, many of these cities are gripped with builders' remorse. They say the skyways and tunnels have choked off pedestrian traffic, hurt street-level retailers and limited development in the city core.

"The skywalks were not the best-developed scheme in recent history and have not served us all that well," said Jim Tarbell, a Cincinnati councilman.

And now, as cities try to draw residents downtown with loft conversions and tax incentives, several are trying to divert pedestrians back to the street and do away with the walkways. Critics say the walkways are too antiseptic and too controlled and have transformed cities into places to pass through, not live in.

"If I could take a cement mixer and pour cement in and clog up the tunnels, I would do it today," said Laura Miller, the mayor of Dallas, referring to the city's tunnels. "It was the worst urban planning decision that Dallas has ever made. They thought it was hip and groovy to create an underground community, but it was a death knell."

This attitude shift shows that city planners and officials now see the pulse of their downtown not in its office towers and 9-to-5 workers, but in street cafes and restaurants, sidewalks and pedestrian traffic during the day, after work and on weekends.

"At the time they were built, they were seen as a way of competing with the suburbs," said Dave Feehan, director of the International Downtown Association, a collection of city-center groups. "Remember the fear of crime people had 20 years ago? Downtowns were seen as unsafe places and places people didn't want to be."

But now?

"People are saying, if we had it to do all over again, we wouldn't do it," Mr. Feehan said.

Dallas has considered offering retailers $2.5 million in incentives if they relocate from the tunnels to the street. Des Moines has limited the expansion of its skywalks. Cincinnati has gone the furthest and approved a plan to tear down pieces of its 30-year-old skywalk system.

Still, skywalks and tunnels have become crucial arteries of city life in cold-weather places like Fargo, N.D., and Minneapolis, St. Paul and Rochester in Minnesota.

Other cities and downtown associations that have soured on their skywalks have no choice but to live with them. Many were built with a mix of public and private money and are now owned, maintained and guarded by the office towers through which they run.

In Hartford, plans to demolish the Asylum Street skybridge, widely ridiculed as a civic embarrassment, stalled last year over objections from the tenants and leaseholder in the office building on one end of the bridge. Developers who are building a huge residential tower across Asylum Street still hope to tear down the skywalk, but legal disputes could keep it intact for another two years.

Not so in Cincinnati. In the 1960's, the city asked its director of development, Peter Kory, to build skybridges that would join commercial towers to hotels to a convention center downtown.

Mr. Tarbell, the Cincinnati councilman, said the city modeled its skywalks after those in Minneapolis.

The skywalks loom over Fountain Square, Cincinnati's central civic plaza, cutting off views and strangling retailers and restaurants on the ground floor. One office building on Vine Street with a skywalk link does not even have a lobby on the street level.

"The skywalk - it's ugly, and the space underneath it is dark and yucky," said Charlie Luken, the mayor of Cincinnati. "The whole area is dead too much of the day."

The skywalks deteriorated over the years and were used mostly by office workers looking for cigarette breaks, city officials said. The city paid to build the skywalks, and now pays to maintain them.

And so, the City Council in June approved a $42 million plan to renovate Fountain Square, which would finance destruction of several pieces of the skywalk, keeping one leg that connects to the Cincinnati Convention Center. Demolition is set to start in August, but not everyone is happy.

"It's a very controversial issue because people are used to the thing," Mr. Luken said. "When it rains or snows, they're used to using it."

But for what? Exceptions abide, but the businesses that fill skywalks and tunnels mainly serve office workers on lunch breaks, small-bore shoppers and residents seeking relief from the heat, cold or rain. There are copy centers, office-suppliers, diners, candy and coffee shops and a smattering of salons and gift stores, but few high-end restaurants or retailers.

"If you come here, people would think we have no retail at all," said Cheryl Myers, a senior vice president of Charlotte Center City Planners in North Carolina.

In the 1970's, the city began building its Overstreet Mall, a series of retail shops on the second floor of office buildings, connected by skywalks. Today, the skywalks connect 30 downtown blocks, Ms. Myers said. "Everyone knows it's a mistake," she said.

When walkways bloomed from Dallas to Des Moines, Minneapolis to Tampa, in the 1970's and early 80's, it appeared that White Plains in Westchester County would join the party. The White Plains Mall had sucked retailers and clothing stores from downtown, and vacancy rates were at 30 percent.

But after planning to build the system, the city cooled on the idea, finally abandoning it in 1998, said Paul Wood, the executive officer for White Plains. It instead supported projects like a sculpture walk, plazas and a farmer's market designed to keep people on the streets.

"The skyways really didn't work," Mr. Wood said. "If you're up in a skywalk, you might as well be driving your car."

Des Moines began building its three miles of skywalks in 1982, arguing at the time that the $10 million program would save the city. Twenty-three years later, city officials blame the skywalks for the ghostly still sidewalks and ground-floor vacancy rates of 60 percent.

The city has no plans to rip down its skywalks, but the City Council has passed resolutions limiting their presence to a central Skywalk District downtown. Two years ago, a $50 million entertainment development proposed by AMC Theaters fell apart because the city refused to allow a skywalk to be built over Court Avenue, city officials said.

"We negotiated a million ways, but we said, 'You're not going to get it,' " said Chris Coleman, a Des Moines councilman.

Inside the Dallas Underground, a two-mile tunnel system that supports 90 businesses, the corridors are sometimes bustling, but sometimes deserted and melancholy. Despite the mayor's desire to plug the tunnels and lure businesses away, owners say they are happy to be down below, ready to serve the thousands of people who work above.

Others miss the urban rush. One afternoon, George Baum sat in a half-empty dining corridor in the basement of the Renaissance Towers, finishing lunch before he returned to the 19th floor and his job at Nieman Marcus.

"There's stuff going on all around downtown, but you don't see it here," Mr. Baum said. "I should get out more."
 
^^^"Still, skywalks and tunnels have become crucial arteries of city life in cold-weather places like Fargo, N.D., and Minneapolis, St. Paul and Rochester in Minnesota."
 
Not to mention Calgary's + 15 system. It would be intresting how Toronto's core would have developed if we didn't have PATH?

Louroz
 
Who would shop outside in Dallas when it is 38'C outside every summer? Who would want to walk around in that heat when downtown Dallas is a sea of hot parking lots, surrounded closely by an inner loop freeway, and has no street presence. Dallas needs to think again if it thinks the tunnels are its primary concern.

Cincinatti has a bit more street presence but again it's downtown is car dominated, is surrounded by freeways on three sides, and it has no mass transit. I don't think a successful street presence will be created by pushing pedestrians onto the street... people need to want to be there and that means getting rid of fast moving traffic, making the street more attractive to walk on (i.e. sidewalk improvements, trees, street furniture), making it a little more quiet, and after that is done if there are people going from A to B they will walk on the street (weather permitting) and businesses will locate there as a result. I don't think businesses can open on the street with a "if you build it they will come" mentality. Certainly you can't open a street patio in a place where the winds off the skyscrapers never subside and expect to be too successful.
 
I actually found downtown Cincy and its skywalks to be kind of cute when I was there 15 or so years ago--almost toylike. It doesn't even sound terribly unsuccessful today, except by the standards of Gap-type retail being more "desirable" than another friggin Skyline Chili.

In a weird way, I'm wondering if there's a Detroit-style web-based grassroots campaign to save Cincy's skywalks...
 
The problem is people left downtown. Not skywalks and tunnels.

Toronto has PATH. Yet we have bustling streets full of shopping and restaurants.
Both can work together. They don't work well in cities where downtown was going down anyway.
 
Montreal has an extensive underground system as well, and isn't exactly lacking in downtown streetlife...
 
Toronto's underground PATH system worked well. however Toronto also had a above ground network of foot bridges between buildings planned. This never took off. However Torontos PATH system works well, letting people commute in the hot and cold days underground, not having to wait at stoplights and crowd the sidewalks durring rush hour. Without the PATH, Torontos rush hour downtown would be a sea of people similar to New York's rush hour.
 
I don't like PATH and find its retail to be quite dissapointing. Ottawa winters are very cold compared to TO and we get buy without it.

Think about what Toronto's streets could be with 10,000s more people on them. However, PATH is soo extensive I dougbt it could be closed down.
 
I found the experience of St. Paul, Minnesota with skyways over a decade ago to be interesting because of class issues. It turns out that the more affluent people would use the downtown skyways, while the poor would tend to use St. Paul's surface streets more. The reason attributed to this class-basedsplit: The affluent would park their cars in downtown building garages often parking at the 2nd floor or higher. Leaving their autos, they would go to the skyways directly or take an elevator to the level the skyway was located. Those not wealthy enough to own an automobile would go to downtown St. Paul by bus and get off on the street and generally stay at street level during there stay downtown.
 
I don't like PATH and find its retail to be quite dissapointing.
The retail is dissapointing because there is nobody around during the evening or weekends. This means that the stores need to make enough money to survive based on a four hours a day 5 days a week (two at lunch and two in afternoon rush).

That really restricts your options, especially with the high rent they pay.

Put 30000 permenant residents in condos between University / Yonge / Front / Queen and now the restaurants and stores have enough of a market to add a little variety to the lineup. Add in large set of tourists looking to kill an evening in hotels but who don't want to venture very far past closed stores and we can make serious headway on PATH activity on a weekend.

See the Atrium at Bay & Dundas on a Saturday versus the underground at First Canadian Place. Watch a large portion of the weekend shoppers goto Edward and Elm street condos. It seems to be enough to make a difference between closed at 6pm and closed at 8pm with a few hours open on Sunday.
 
Montréal's underground city is better, because it's busy whenever the stores are open. The PATH is generally 9-5 M-F, and is pretty desolate at other times. I think it'd be more vibrant if we never had it at all. Now that we do have it though, there's no reason to tear it all down.
 
The "deadness" of PATH at the weekends is a perfectly legitimate counterpoint to the frantic activity that takes place there during the week. It is surely just a different way of experiencing the same space. At night the sun goes down and the moon appears and we experience the world differently.
 

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