[Bojaxs]

No, but the tunnel itself is quite large, there's ample room for something like Montreal's MP-10. The underground stations though are a different story. Rebuilding them to accept high floor vehicles would be extremely difficult.

Other LRT vehicles seem far more reliable than the Citadis, so there's probably a better low floor or 70% vehicle we could use

Would it not be more realistic to lower the track bed at a station rather than rebuild an entire station to accept light metros or high floor LRTs?

I wouldn't want to see Ottawa switch out a low floor LRT for another low floor LRT.

 

[Mind_the_gap]

Sarcasm, but there is an easier solution, just order the Siemens S200s that SF Muni has with steps and a wheelchair lift, though this would wreck accessibility.

 

[Kyle Campbell]

Would it not be more realistic to lower the track bed at a station rather than rebuild an entire station to accept light metros or high floor LRTs?

I wouldn't want to see Ottawa switch out a low floor LRT for another low floor LRT.

Except that's not really possible without rebuilding the stations. There's not really clearance below to lower it. There's clearance above in the tunnel because of the catenary, but not within the stations where there's a third rail instead of a wire attached to the ceiling

However the much longer new tunnel on the west segment doesn't have the clearance so it makes it a moot point. Really only other LRVs would do..

And it is possible. Vienna's U6 also uses low floor LRVs, and it manages 205k daily riders

 

[CharmAlarm]

Here they go again....

New bearing problem forcing OC Transpo to take some LRT cars out of service​

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/new-bearing-issue-forces-some-line-1-vehicles-out-of-service-9.7054679

 

[Amare]

What kind of lunacy is this.

It's clear that this Citadis has a defective design, but yet Alstom doesnt want to address it.

Good thing we have other clown organizations like Metrolinx who continue to line their pockets, which unfortunately doesnt incentivize them to actually fix the problem.

 

[robmausser]

What kind of lunacy is this.

It's clear that this Citadis has a defective design, but yet Alstom doesnt want to address it.

Good thing we have other clown organizations like Metrolinx who continue to line their pockets, which unfortunately doesnt incentivize them to actually fix the problem.

Good thing we didn't use the trains on another Line in Ontario when it was obvious they were crap!

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[IRT_BMT_IND]

What kind of lunacy is this.

It's clear that this Citadis has a defective design, but yet Alstom doesnt want to address it.

Good thing we have other clown organizations like Metrolinx who continue to line their pockets, which unfortunately doesnt incentivize them to actually fix the problem.

I wonder if the easiest fix at this point is to just replace these trains with a better design. While scrapping essentially brand new trains would be scandalous, if the design is this deeply flawed with no fix seemingly coming it might be easiest option and certainly cheaper than doing any major reconstruction or realignment on the right of way itself.

 

[Abdullah77]

I wonder if the easiest fix at this point is to just replace these trains with a better design. While scrapping essentially brand new trains would be scandalous, if the design is this deeply flawed with no fix seemingly coming it might be easiest option and certainly cheaper than doing any major reconstruction or realignment on the right of way itself.

Maybe Ottawa can go back to whatever CAF stock RTG was proposing way back when

 

[Bojaxs]

These stupid f**king Alstom Sh*tadis Spirits are going to be the downfall of transit across Ontario.

These dumb trains are popping up everywhere. Ottawa, Toronto, Mississauga, potentially Hamilton.

EDIT: Not just in Ontario, but Quebec as well. Quebec City placed an order for these trams.

 

[drum118]

These stupid f**king Alstom Sh*tadis Spirits are going to be the downfall of transit across Ontario.

These dumb trains are popping up everywhere. Ottawa, Toronto, Mississauga, potentially Hamilton.

EDIT: Not just in Ontario, but Quebec as well. Quebec City placed an order for these trams.

You knew we would be having problems with the buggies once Alstom gave up trying to solve Ottawa issues. The first Mississauga LRV that was shipped to Kingston last year after many moths of testing when Alstom call it a day. The only way to fix the issues is to redesign the buggies to NA standards which Alstom saying no to. Maybe a few lawsuits may change their minds,

 

[robmausser]

I wonder if the easiest fix at this point is to just replace these trains with a better design. While scrapping essentially brand new trains would be scandalous, if the design is this deeply flawed with no fix seemingly coming it might be easiest option and certainly cheaper than doing any major reconstruction or realignment on the right of way itself.

Yes its two fold. These trains have lots of problems but also they aren't designed what MX is now using them for. They are heavy, big, and were really designed for the Ottawa O-Train "MetroLRT" which is really not an LRT network.

They are terrible for using in what I like to call "Streetcar+" which is what our LRT systems are on Finch, Hurontario, Hamilton. Basically a beefed up St.Clair line. You want light, nimble fast trains like what we are getting on Eglinton.

Ironically, considering that 70% of Eglinton will be underground and completely grade separated like Ottawa, the Alstom trains would have been a better fit for the Crosstown! LOL.

Which btw, when ridership demands quickly overwhelm the Crosstown, we will need to procure longer trainsets. Remember how the Crosstown has the ability for 3 coupled Flexity trains? Well, that train no longer is being made, so we can't order more.

I can only assume we will be getting 2 coupled Alstom Citadis trains on the Crosstown. I did the math, they basically equal the length of 3 flexities.