kolya
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One may find this question strange but does it really working? Do people get fined when parking on the lawn of the parks?
Seems not.
For about a week the parking lots on Lakeshore bulevard at Windemere ave and Lakeshore bulevard and Ellis ave are closed and used as garbage dump sites.
And lots of cars are parked around, directly on the grass. There are like 20 cars or even more. Some of them a strikers', some probably not because number of strikers here is well below 20.
So I called parking enforcement unit, many times. First couple of times I just left location, my name and address. But when the number of cars illegally parked there I became curious. I asked to speak to police supervisor about this issue. Basically, what I was told is that they cannot fine anybody on the lawn because this is city property, which is like private property and requires consent to fine a vehicle from property owner. I've heard various stories from different supervisors since then, but all concluded that they won't do anything. One of the officers told me today that they are waiting for some letter form Toronto Park and Recreations authorizing them to fine in this particular park. But he refused to give me name to whom this letter was addressed. And hi didn't provide me with information whether other park have letter allowing to fine and tow there. And he also have given me some (I think) fake bylaw number which as he says forces them to wait for city permission.
I, from my side looked to Toronto Municipal code and found that:
1) paragraph 915-2 prohibits parking without consent on any property (including private and municipal).
2) paragraphs 915-3,4 grant permission to the police to remove and fine vehicles parked without such consent.
3) paragraph 608-27 lists places where parking is allowed in parks. And it includes only specifically marked places.
So, from my perspective city have given all permissions and consents to the police to fine those car owners. Do I miss something or police officers just do not tell me the truth (or tell me untruth)?
At the mean time grass is being destroyed by cars there and instead of a lawn there soon will be just dust. And this lawn was created and maintained for taxpayers money.
Do not known what to think. If this is reality that anybody can park on the lawns in the parks for free this is ridiculous. If this is only for strikers and city employees this makes them above the law which is frightening.
And do not know what to do, actually.
Seems not.
For about a week the parking lots on Lakeshore bulevard at Windemere ave and Lakeshore bulevard and Ellis ave are closed and used as garbage dump sites.
And lots of cars are parked around, directly on the grass. There are like 20 cars or even more. Some of them a strikers', some probably not because number of strikers here is well below 20.
So I called parking enforcement unit, many times. First couple of times I just left location, my name and address. But when the number of cars illegally parked there I became curious. I asked to speak to police supervisor about this issue. Basically, what I was told is that they cannot fine anybody on the lawn because this is city property, which is like private property and requires consent to fine a vehicle from property owner. I've heard various stories from different supervisors since then, but all concluded that they won't do anything. One of the officers told me today that they are waiting for some letter form Toronto Park and Recreations authorizing them to fine in this particular park. But he refused to give me name to whom this letter was addressed. And hi didn't provide me with information whether other park have letter allowing to fine and tow there. And he also have given me some (I think) fake bylaw number which as he says forces them to wait for city permission.
I, from my side looked to Toronto Municipal code and found that:
1) paragraph 915-2 prohibits parking without consent on any property (including private and municipal).
2) paragraphs 915-3,4 grant permission to the police to remove and fine vehicles parked without such consent.
3) paragraph 608-27 lists places where parking is allowed in parks. And it includes only specifically marked places.
So, from my perspective city have given all permissions and consents to the police to fine those car owners. Do I miss something or police officers just do not tell me the truth (or tell me untruth)?
At the mean time grass is being destroyed by cars there and instead of a lawn there soon will be just dust. And this lawn was created and maintained for taxpayers money.
Do not known what to think. If this is reality that anybody can park on the lawns in the parks for free this is ridiculous. If this is only for strikers and city employees this makes them above the law which is frightening.
And do not know what to do, actually.
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