Videodrome
Senior Member
Kind of like how Harper and the CPC pushed pipelines, but never approved any of them!
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Aside from the 4 they approved and were built, maybe you are correct.Kind of like how Harper and the CPC pushed pipelines, but never approved any of them!
The planes weren't built yet in 2012. Why buy something that doesn't exist yet.Haha, if only Harper actually bought anything during his rather long tenure as PM instead of wanting his cake and eat it too on this file. Surely if he felt so strongly about the buy, he could have used some of his political capital for it back in 2012 instead of reaching for the eject button eh?
http://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/january-2016/acautionarytale/
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The planes weren't built yet in 2012. Why buy something that doesn't exist yet.
Now is the time that countries are starting to fill the orders and they are dumping their old obsolete F-18's on third world and other minor countries.
Aside from the 4 they approved and were built, maybe you are correct.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3Dm_thVcAAeCR-.jpg
Funny, considering how many shipbuilding contracts said government which supposedly didn't want to bind future governments had signed. It looks like that's one BS argument.
He couldn't have bought anything during his tenure. No one outside of the USA had received any F-35s during that time, with only now a trickle of units arriving to Israel and other buyers. So, even if Harper had issued a hard PO, Trudeau would have still canceled it, paid a fine (same as Chretien did with the EH-101 cancellation) and we'd be in the same situation today. The only way Harper could have forced Trudeau to accept the F-35 would have been a full or nearly full, irrevocable prepayment to Lockheed-Martin. And no government is going to pay fully upfront in 2015 or earlier on an untested aircraft.Haha, if only Harper actually bought anything during his rather long tenure as PM instead of wanting his cake and eat it too on this file.
He couldn't have bought anything during his tenure. No one outside of the USA had received any F-35s during that time, with only now a trickle of units arriving to Israel and other buyers. So, even if Harper had issued a hard PO, Trudeau would have still canceled it, paid a fine (same as Chretien did with the EH-101 cancellation) and we'd be in the same situation today. The only way Harper could have forced Trudeau to accept the F-35 would have been a full or nearly full, irrevocable prepayment to Lockheed-Martin. And no government is going to pay fully upfront in 2015 or earlier on an untested aircraft.
And he bought new (to us) tanks, new heavy lift transport aircraft. Harper wasn't great, but not the worst PM military-wise.Also keep in mind that Harper's government didn't hesitate to sign long lead-time, multi-billion procurement contracts loaded with regional incentives for ships either.
And he bought new (to us) tanks, new heavy lift transport aircraft. Harper wasn't great, but not the worst PM military-wise.
Is Harper trying to avoid any responsibility for the status of the Future Fighter Capability Project?He can't wash his hands of his responsibility in this matter.
I don't consider it ironic that the government spent more on defence when it had more money to spend.(Ironically, those procurements happened during the early years, before the economic crisis hit and the prioritization of deficit reduction above all else).
I don't consider it ironic that the government spent more on defence when it had more money to spend.