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The PM's speech yesterday was very good and very important. Was very impressed. Definitely haven't seen a speech like that from a PM in a very long time and it's good that he was very blunt about the state of things.
Trump, not surprisingly, doesn't agree https://www.thestar.com/politics/fe...cle_a1887bcc-5f1e-44b0-a331-465dc0975469.html
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I swear that man has Dementia.
🤣🤣🤣 What American senator doesn't show at least the early signs of cognitive decline? The median age of the US Senate is 65 years old as of last year, with 6 out of 99 over 80 years old and 66 out of 99 over 61 years old. The House is not much better.

 
🤣🤣🤣 What American senator doesn't show at least the early signs of cognitive decline? The median age of the US Senate is 65 years old as of last year, with 6 out of 99 over 80 years old and 66 out of 99 over 61 years old.


There's a big difference between a senator and president. Senators don't speak for the entire country while the President does.
 
You can find a lot of people on line that deal with geriatric patients that claim Trump has frontotemporal dementia. I have no idea, and honestly unless congress is going to do something about it, it doesn't really matter

Fair enough.

I consider it like Reagan who had cognitive decline near the end of his Second Term but had it hidden. FDR was beholden to a wheelchair but that was hidden from the public until after he died.
 
There's a big difference between a senator and president. Senators don't speak for the entire country while the President does.
Fair. My point is that the whole US federal government is wracked by out-of-touch, mentally impaired, geriatric puppets. The office of the President eventually being occupied by one of their ilk is not entirely unexpected.

Put in another way: Obama is the only president born after schools were nominally desegregated by their Supreme Court.

Back to the earlier topic, Trump saying stuff like 'Canada lives because of the United States' just proves Carney's point: out with the old world order and in with Realism.
The old world order was the US being idealized as a benevolent, fair, and just hegemon.

Fair enough.

I consider it like Reagan who had cognitive decline near the end of his Second Term but had it hidden. FDR was beholden to a wheelchair but that was hidden from the public until after he died.
True. And you know who else had cognitive decline? Biden.

Forgot where I read this, but the (highly dubious) sentiment from some Americans is that the Democrats talk a big game to the working class and inevitably underdeliver with neoliberal policies; the Republicans are more likely to tell you they're going to screw you over. They openly say they'll cut taxes for the rich and gut welfare-type spending.

"Democrats can't be trusted. Republicans lie less". Covering up Biden's decline is a scandal that lost trust for the Dems. Lichtman's Keys were right. But he failed to apply them correctly.
 
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Trump, not surprisingly, doesn't agree
I won't be handing out flowers here but he's not totally wrong - much of Canada's neoliberal existence, including our underspending on military, is thanks to the US being world police and the major geopolitical force for the 20th century. Outside of a few select points (Iraq, as one) we broadly side with the US on most points, or did until this year. Aren't we still supplying the IDF with arms? Our Venezuela statement was weak. Carney's done well in the last week and I expect to see more action from him to divest us away from the US but we obviously need to tread carefully.

Everything else he said was wrong, obviously. Broken clock and such things.
 
I won't be handing out flowers here but he's not totally wrong - much of Canada's neoliberal existence, including our underspending on military, is thanks to the US being world police and the major geopolitical force for the 20th century. Outside of a few select points (Iraq, as one) we broadly side with the US on most points, or did until this year. Aren't we still supplying the IDF with arms? Our Venezuela statement was weak. Carney's done well in the last week and I expect to see more action from him to divest us away from the US but we obviously need to tread carefully.

Everything else he said was wrong, obviously. Broken clock and such things.

This I can agree with.

Canada needs to stop relying on the US for everything. Before them, it was the British Empire that they thought would come to their rescue.

We need to stop coddling people, build up our armed forces and make our trade deals without US support. If the US does not like it, too bad. I get they are our largest trading partner but if we keep being beholden to them, we risk being left with nothing when they back out.
 
I won't be handing out flowers here but he's not totally wrong - much of Canada's neoliberal existence, including our underspending on military, is thanks to the US being world police and the major geopolitical force for the 20th century. Outside of a few select points (Iraq, as one) we broadly side with the US on most points, or did until this year. Aren't we still supplying the IDF with arms? Our Venezuela statement was weak. Carney's done well in the last week and I expect to see more action from him to divest us away from the US but we obviously need to tread carefully.

Everything else he said was wrong, obviously. Broken clock and such things.
Carney himself admitted it in his speech:

For decades, countries like Canada prospered under what we called the rules-based international order. We joined its institutions, we praised its principles, we benefited from its predictability. And because of that, we could pursue values-based foreign policies under its protection.

We knew the story of the international rules-based order was partially false, that the strongest would exempt themselves when convenient, that trade rules were enforced asymmetrically, and we knew that international law applied with varied rigour, depending on the identity of the accused or the victim.

This fiction was useful, and American hegemony in particular helped provide public goods, open sea lanes, a stable financial system, collective security and support for frameworks for resolving disputes.

So we placed the sign in the window. We participated in the rituals, and we largely avoided calling out the gaps between rhetoric and reality.

This bargain no longer works.
 
Clearly the subject above (Trumps latest pronouncements )is relevant to this thread in terms of international relations, federal policy, and how we (Canada) navigate all this.

That said, and I apply this to myself given what I'm about to say, lets try not to wander too far afield into 'world orders' or the particulars of the current President's mental health, insofar as we don't want to make the Canadian Federal Politics thread all about the U.S.

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That said, I'll play for a moment.

1) On Trump, all his trolling notwithstanding, and all his power (both real and perceived), its important to remember how little most
President's actually do, by way of governing or policy setting. Even the overtly intelligent ones. Take Obama as example, one year, I believe the last of his first term, he personally attended at least 300 discrete fundraising events. i want everyone to note here, that if you (or the President) took zero vacation, that's more than 1 fundraiser for every weekday of the year. (approx. 260). Now add the ceremonial obligations of the office (bill signings,foreign heads of state being greeted, routine briefings etc.) that doesn't leave much time to be in the policy weeds even for the bright and workaholic; and Mr. Trump is neither.

A lot of the heavy lifting will be Stephen Miller, Steve Witkoff, Oren Cass, his son-in-law Jared is everywhere............ among others.

The trolling is some mix of stuff fed to him as well as ad lib for his own amusement.

While Trump is a problem, unto himself; you can't underestimate the role of key figures around him as architects, moving the chess pieces. (3D or otherwise).

2) Always remember, the apparent goal or talking point is rarely the real goal. Once in a while it is, but mostly its distraction. Follow the money.

3) The world order such as it was, has always been unfair in one way or another, both between the West and the Rest and within each respective group and country and region.

That is not and was not ok; but its also reality. We're seeing a shift here, but the players who profit are mostly the same, its the manner of doing so that is evolving.
 
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Americans in border states when they see Chinese EVs for the first time....
They're also seeing Volvos and Teslas from China. It seems those will be the first to benefit from the new China-Canada deal.

 

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