PL1
Senior Member
The Department of Homeland Security/Immigration can ask approach people within 100 statute miles of the border. I believe that applies here...
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afransen
Senior Member
It's more a matter of if/when FIFA and the IOC start questioning whether these events are viable in the US. It's reminiscent of Hitler hosting the Games in 1936.
evandyk
Senior Member
This is true, and that area includes over 2/3 of the US population, including all but a handful of the big cities.
Not that it matters, if the US government's position is that they can arrest anybody, for any reason, and as long as they get them on a plane to El Salvador, the courts can do nothing about it.
guavadelic
Active Member
FIFA held the world cup in Russia in 2018 after they invaded and annexed Crimea and were in the middle of a rapid deterioration of freedoms. I don't think they'd be too bothered unless there was armed conflict in the host cities.
ShonTron
Moderator
Yeah, it’s not new. I rode Amtrak’s Empire Builder between Portland and Chicago in 2011. Back then, during the Obama years, USBP officers boarded the train at Havre – a fuel stop and crew change point – to question passengers in coach. I was in sleeper class and didn’t encounter them.
They’d also bother passengers on trains and buses stopping in Rochester NY. They seem to be more heavily armed now, based on that article, so it seems to be an escalation of previous practice.
lenaitch
Senior Member
UtakataNoAnnex
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Admiral Beez
Superstar
So what, we're supposed to accept a horde of illegals from Trump's USA?
UtakataNoAnnex
Superstar
I don't think the article is claiming that. Rather a sad fact a family was rejected by at our border on a technicality that ended up in unfortunate circumstances because of that...
...that said though, I'd rather look at them as human first as opposed to as a nuisance. But I get that I am not everyone here. /sigh
I’m with you. The US is becoming increasingly unsafe for many, and we may need to review its status as a safe country.
guavadelic
Active Member
The article you linked clearly states they should've been allowed to seek asylum due to them having a relative in Canada who is a citizen, a permanent resident or has an accepted refugee claim
Most times your opinion on this would be the consensus view in Canada but cause of this recent backlash against immigration....
UtakataNoAnnex
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And that's precisely this why I must speak up for them. Ignorance, fear and hate brings us Trump. We as a nation can do better then that and we need to do better than that. Or we're not much better than the jurisdiction to the south of us, IMO. And to put that mildly.
Admiral Beez
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Looks like US voters are seeing the consequences...
Admiral Beez
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The article clearly states that their claim of having a relative was reviewed by Canada Customs and Immigration at the border and rejected. That's fair to me - if tomorrow I show up at any country's border and want in, I fully expect that the first point of contact will review and if necessary refuse me. Estimates suggest that the vast majority of undocumented immigrants in the United States—likely over 80%—are economic migrants rather than individuals fleeing persecution. This is not a case of Canada turning away the MS St. Louis, and in fact Canada accepts half of all refugee claims. As for economic migrants, my parents (with me in tow) came to Canada to seek economic opportunities as well, but we applied and waited in our home country. That's what both the USA and Canada should rightly expect of any economic migrants.
Monarch Butterfly
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Shades of Nazi Germany...