Admiral Beez
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All garage worthy vehicles. Here’s my motorcycle ride from a decade ago. 1969 Triumph 500 twin.
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micheal_can
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I actually own 3. A 2014 Kawasaki Ninja 300, a 1999Yamaha Verago 1100 and a 1969 Hodaka Ace 90.
Funny how someone is trying to say the only thing a garage should hold is a car on a passenger rail forum. Wasn't the picture of an overpriced VW?
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Let's take it back to trains. One thing I wish we had was a motorcycle train. Not one where your bike is considered freight, so that you must drain the fuel and fluids, nor like the Amtrak autotrain where your bike is strapped down onto a pallet and can only be retrieved at the final destination. But instead imagine a VIA train where you could remove your bike at any station, tour the area and get back on somewhere else, or just ride home. They have this is Europe (of course).
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A guide to European motorail trains, taking your car by train across Europe. Includes French Motorail from Calais to Nice, Narbonne, Toulouse, Brive & Avignon, Dutch motorail (Auto Slaap Trein) from Holland to Italy & the south of France, German Motorail (DB AutoZug) from Dusseldorf to Italy &...
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And SEA.
Bikes On Trains
The late, and much lamented, Dan White, travel writer and photo-journalist, explains how to get your bike on a Thai train.
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micheal_can
Senior Member
Would be nice to hop on the Canadian instead of dealing with the 400 to get to the GTA.
While my dreaming brain likes the idea, the rest of my brain tells me that even if we had an HxR train, it would slow the train down too much to be worth it.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
True, time would be needed. But assuming this is on the Canadian or Altantic, those trains sit for ages at scheduled stops anyway. For example, Toronto to Souix Lookout departs Union at 09:55 am and arrives at 11:25 am the following day. The train does not depart Sioux Lookout for Vancouver for another 30 mins, or 11:55 am. That would be sufficient time to unload several motorcycles if the system is set up for quick RoRo like in Thailand.
lenaitch
Senior Member
Only some. Sioux Lookout is (or used to be) a crew change. Something as heavy as a bike would require facilities at every station stop, unless you would be willing to only go to places like Capreol, Hornpayne, Sioux Lookout, etc. Many are just old-style low paved platforms; some, like Washago, aren't even that.
micheal_can
Senior Member
There isn't much around there to ride. I could take this into fantasy, but the best highway to ride in Canada is 17 between Thunder Bay and SSM.
lenaitch
Senior Member
Way off topic but it depends on what type of riding. For highway touring, it could be a starting point for a one-way return trip to the south; off-road riding (tons of bush roads) or what I call 'adventure-touring' or back roads touring on gravel or hardtop roads. When I lived in Sioux Lookout we were off somewhere most every weekend.
micheal_can
Senior Member
It is funny because over on the Lack of Meaningful.... we were discussing how there is a lack of marketing on the Sudbury - White River route. For the Canadian, they could charge a premium on the bike and it would help make even more money for that route. As I said over there, I do not feel the marketing department does well at marketing Via to the masses well enough.
lenaitch
Senior Member
Only if there was facilities. I don't think many would be thrilled adding time to the schedule to accommodate however long it would take to offload comparatively large freight. Then there might be the whole flammable fluids and batteries thing. I don't know the rules. The PBX will accept ATVs, MSVs, etc.
By the looks of images of the size of the trainsets, it seems Canadian is marketted just fine.
micheal_can
Senior Member
Well, on the QC-W routes, they cannot order train sets to be 32 axles long/7 cars long, So,I would argue that the marketing of Via is not fine.
The PBX is a whole other thing all together.
guavadelic
New Member
Marin Imbleau, VIA HFR CEO, made an appearance at this week's Toronto Global Forum. He participated in a 'fireside' chat with the host where he outlined the basics of the proposed project. Not much in the way of new info, but continued to emphasize the importance of speed and journey time when it comes to this project. He also revealed that the project name is about to undergo a name change.
Discussion of the project's name change starts around the 4:35min mark.
Discussion of the project's name change starts around the 4:35min mark.
lenaitch
Senior Member
I'll re-type it in bold to see if I can make it clearer:
By the looks of images of the size of the trainsets, it seems CANADIAN is marketted just fine.
Besides, I doubt any marketting effort could over-ride a directive from the host railway. Maybe they could ignore TC rulings too because, you know, marketting.
MisterF
Senior Member
Makes sense. HFR always struck me as a placeholder, more of a description than a name. And a flawed one at that, since basically all high speed rail lines are also high frequency. The distinction between HFR and HSR was always a bit awkward. If the proposal has evolved to include high speed sections then that disctinction becomes meaningless. A name change seems inevitable.
I suspect that the soon to be winning bidder has more catchy branding in mind.
I always liked the Lynx name of the proposal from the 90s. The fact that we have Metrolinx now doesn't hurt.
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Urban Sky
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The name “High Frequency Rail” was chosen by VIA to highlight the entire rationale behind their project: that creating a game changer for intercity rail travel in the Corridor can capitalize on frequent intercity rail services as those operating every half-hour in Switzerland, Belgium and the Netherlands without having to design and build eyewateringly expensive dedicated HSR infrastructure over the next two decades.
Now that the CIB has successfully scope-creeped the initial HFR proposal into one if the usual HSR proposals which arrive every decade or so, just to reliably fail whenever it comes to the question who would possibly pay for its pricetag, “High Frequency Rail” has indeed become a meaningless misnomer…