DonValleyRainbow
Senior Member
The people who oppose Rail Deck Park are going to look as foolish as those who opposed the CN Tower in the 70s.
I don't think many people are opposed. Just a lot of people that want Tory to show them the money.
The people who oppose Rail Deck Park are going to look as foolish as those who opposed the CN Tower in the 70s.
I don't think many people are opposed. Just a lot of people that want Tory to show them the money.
I have not read the article, but let me guess - downtown vs suburbs. He knows we are almost at the half way point prior to the next municipal electionWell, we know Mammo is going to fight this one (per the Sun - not going to link to that rag).
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if this park goes ahead, what is to prevent developers from arguing against setting aside an appropriate level of public space in the development of the area north of Front? "We don't need to do this, you have the big railway park?"
I'm suspicious that this is Tory throwing a bone to the developers at the taxpayers' expense and to the detriment of building sufficient green space into this area.
If this goes ahead it should be cost neutral to the City and should be funded from the revenues from adjacent development.
It is a wonderful opportunity, but not at any cost. We have the one-stop to work out all our overspending urges on.
- Paul
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but decking over of the Hudson Yards in New York City, at 11.5 hectares approximately, will/is to cost $700 million. However, I am not sure where that number stands today, since the information I have seen is from 2014.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...hudson-yards-starts-next-phase-as-deck-begins
Montreal has many great modest but well-designed neighbourhood parks. It also has an existing linear park between its downtown and its tourist/recreation waterfront, built atop a covered highway. It's an uninviting area that you mostly rush past, used almost exclusively it seems by the local homeless. That wouldn't be the outcome I'd expect if this was built in Toronto, just because the scale of activity in Toronto is so much greater. But it is an example that exists at the opposite end of the spectrum from Millennium Park. Toronto does build some parks that become less used or used in different ways than designs full of render people usually promise.I love Trinity-Bellwoods, but my favourite park that I've seen in Canada is still Square Saint-Louis in Montreal.
David Rider @dmrider 2h2 hours ago
On funding rail-deck park, @JohnTory says some will come from developers' levies, some from general revenues ... https://www.facebook.com/torontostar
... and like Chicago's Millennium Park he's hopeful businesses, foundations etc. will step. Bottom line, mayor says, we'll find the $
Sounds like empty promises. This ain't Chicago, where philanthropists and soft-hearted developers get behind something.
if this park goes ahead, what is to prevent developers from arguing against setting aside an appropriate level of public space in the development of the area north of Front? "We don't need to do this, you have the big railway park?"
I'm suspicious that this is Tory throwing a bone to the developers at the taxpayers' expense and to the detriment of building sufficient green space into this area.
If this goes ahead it should be cost neutral to the City and should be funded from the revenues from adjacent development.
It is a wonderful opportunity, but not at any cost. We have the one-stop to work out all our overspending urges on.
- Paul
I'm impressed someone came up with $25M for Bentway (Under Gardiner) -- that will still take a number of years to be built.Sounds like empty promises. This ain't Chicago, where philanthropists and soft-hearted developers get behind something.
I didn't read it either (won't give the Sun the clicks), but what people making these kinds of complaints seem to forget is that developments downtown have paid for most of the parks reserve that has built up over the last 15 years. That combined with the lack of park space for the population downtown means that this is more than justified.I have not read the article, but let me guess - downtown vs suburbs. He knows we are almost at the half way point prior to the next municipal election
I didn't read it either (won't give the Sun the clicks), but what people making these kinds of complaints seem to forget is that developments downtown have paid for most of the parks reserve that has built up over the last 15 years. That combined with the lack of park space for the population downtown means that this is more than justified.