TransitBart
Senior Member
I think that GTA West 413 is a virtual certainty now. I would not be surprised to see 404 being extended further towards Highway 48 at Lake Ridge Road.
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Screwing the northern voters that gave Ford their votes isn't the brightest idea. The highway only cost at the most one fifth of the Relief line. There will be a lot of unhappy citizens if they pull the plug on the 400 extension. There's only 68km left that needs to be tendered.So now that we have the PCs as the ruling party, do you think the provincial government may change up some of the planned / proposed projects?
Maybe some more widening? New highways like GTA west maybe?
Or perhaps cuts / scaling down projects to save some $. Example: Extending the 400 towards Sudbury is not cheap.
Screwing the northern voters that gave Ford their votes isn't the brightest idea. The highway only cost at the most one fifth of the Relief line. There will be a lot of unhappy citizens if they pull the plug on the 400 extension. There's only 68km left that needs to be tendered.
Looking at map.Here's a map showing the status of the 400 series corridors as of 2004. It shows some of the plans the PC government had before it was replaced.
http://web4.uwindsor.ca/units/law/C...40ef62a7c985256eca0053f3fb/$FILE/winfield.pdf
I recently finished my road trip by driving a section of highway 17 from Thunder bay to Esponola, There were barely any traffic from Thunder Bay to Sault St. Marie. I was stuck in a traffic accident near Marathon, for 10 minutes, there were only 5 cars came after me. I drove the BC section of TCH a month ealier, there were noticebly more traffic from Kamloop to Golden. I rather see a increase in speed limit than widening the highway.
In your opinion, should it connect with Highway 404 as well? Because there's not really a E-W connection between Hwy 400 and Hwy 404 between Major Mackenzie Dr and Davis Dr/Green Ln (or future Bradford Bypass)Coming back from a trip to niagara which involved a stop in Caledon and ended in Richmond Hill (Oak Ridges). I rely felt the inadequacy of the road network across the Western and Northern GTA. I generally am against road expansion, particulay when done in absence of transit expansion, but really the gta west corridor needs to be evaluated even if it isnt a full fledged 400 series highway.
In your opinion, should it connect with Highway 404 as well? Because there's not really a E-W connection between Hwy 400 and Hwy 404 between Major Mackenzie Dr and Davis Dr/Green Ln (or future Bradford Bypass)
So basically, something like this?A future GTA West route would connect to the 404 under ideal circumstances but that is not likely given the existence of the Oak Ridges Moraine. A Bradford Bypass would exist as its own separate route between 400 and 404, north of where the GTA West would end in Vaughan.
In an ideal fantasy scenario, I would want to see the N-S segment of 407 in Mississauga and the E-W segment through Oakville and Burlington bought back by the province. The shortened 407 would now end at an interchange with the GTA West and 401. The N-S segment of 407 would merge together with the N-S 403 along with a rebuilt 407-403 interchange. The newly joined N-S 407 and 403 would become the southern portion of the new GTA West corridor and connect to the QEW in the south. The E-W 403 through Mississauga would then join with the E-W 407 to create the 403 route as it was originally planned.
The existing 403-QEW interchange would then be rebuilt to allow the 403 to change its routing and take over the existing QEW designation. The QEW would be switched to the existing 403 route towards Woodstock. This type of plan would allow for easier movement and access throughout the western GTA and beyond while offering multiple route options in these areas.
So basically, something like this?
But doesn't interchange design have to take into consideration where people are going? However, since the 407 at QEW would become 403, then it would potentially be free and A LOT more people would use it, and then the interchange may be better to be directional instead of semi-directional, which it is now.Yes, precisely. Except the 403 would now reach Niagara and the QEW to Brantford/Woodstock. That QEW-403-407 interchange in Burlington is a mess and is why I would see that targeted/changed.