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Looking forward to a FRESH START for Toronto
A casino is fine, but there's something a little backwater about listing "several world-class, year-round casinos" as a key example of how Toronto can create increased economic activity.
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dt_toronto_geek
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Agreed. We're falling behind by not having a casino.
Hipster Duck
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Casinos are basically a tax on people who otherwise hate taxes. Go for it.
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Here is one more reason why we should have a couple casinos in this city.
Road toll ‘reality check’ stirs up Toronto council
An exclusive report by the Star that new road tolls and congestion charges will be needed to deliver the $4 billion Sheppard subway has caused a stir among city councillors and business groups.
.The Toronto Board of Trade said that it welcomes a broader discussion on transit infrastructure financing. “It is very clear that if we are going to expand transit infrastructure, especially subways, it requires us to explore the broadest possible range of financing solutions,” Richard Joy, vice president of policy and government relations, said in an email.
A Toronto Star-Angus Reid poll conducted in April 2010 found that nearly seven in 10 GTA respondents reject the idea of $5 tolls on highways such as the DVP or Gardiner. However, the opposition is less fierce among residents within the city of Toronto, or when told the funds would be dedicated to improving public transit.
More....http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/article/997651--rewind-the-week-in-review
Road toll ‘reality check’ stirs up Toronto council
An exclusive report by the Star that new road tolls and congestion charges will be needed to deliver the $4 billion Sheppard subway has caused a stir among city councillors and business groups.
.The Toronto Board of Trade said that it welcomes a broader discussion on transit infrastructure financing. “It is very clear that if we are going to expand transit infrastructure, especially subways, it requires us to explore the broadest possible range of financing solutions,” Richard Joy, vice president of policy and government relations, said in an email.
A Toronto Star-Angus Reid poll conducted in April 2010 found that nearly seven in 10 GTA respondents reject the idea of $5 tolls on highways such as the DVP or Gardiner. However, the opposition is less fierce among residents within the city of Toronto, or when told the funds would be dedicated to improving public transit.
More....http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/article/997651--rewind-the-week-in-review
grey
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Yeah, casinos are a great idea, guys.
Even if they do result in an overall economic benefit, they introduce a whole host of other problems. They're really an income generator of last resort best suited to midwestern towns with few other prospects.
Anyway, if they do build one, I think the exhibition grounds would be a neat spot. But they'll probably be horrible and stick it somewhere like Downsview or Rexdale.
Even if they do result in an overall economic benefit, they introduce a whole host of other problems. They're really an income generator of last resort best suited to midwestern towns with few other prospects.
Anyway, if they do build one, I think the exhibition grounds would be a neat spot. But they'll probably be horrible and stick it somewhere like Downsview or Rexdale.
adma
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Isn't Woodbine (Live! or not) already slated for casino-fication? It's already got the slots...
grey
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Yee-haw!
Armbruster
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Toronto voters overwhelmingly rejected casinos in a 1997 referendum. And even if they have changed their mind since then, the simple fact is this: the province controls gambling revenue in Ontario, not the City of Toronto.
Let's all be clear: when the Ford brothers muse about casinos and how they could help the City's bottom line, they can only be talking about development revenue, tourism and other economic activity. They cannot possibly be talking about gambling revenue, and journalists need to make this crystal clear, since the Fords refuse to.
In 2007, when David Miller was flirting with the idea, the Star described casinos as a "reckless gamble." The article pointed out that "Woodbine already has more than 1,700 slot machines. Toronto receives 5 per cent of the earnings from about a quarter of those machines, and just 2 per cent from the rest."
A casino that pays the City two cents for every dollar the province rakes in is not exactly a cash cow. Without true revenue-sharing, Toronto would be taking on all the social ills that accompany gambling, without receiving any real benefit.
Tewder
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I don't know about the midwest but have you seen Ontario outside of Toronto?
Casinos are passe. The city should open brothels. You know, some taxable humping for those bike lanes!
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Six months in: Ford is large and in charge
Mayor has wasted no time in tearing down David Miller's legacy and generally throwing his weight around
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/05/29/six-months-in-ford-is-large-and-in-charge
Deputy mayor Doug Holyday says he's been impressed with Ford's tenure so far.
"He's stepped up to the plate as mayor and assumed that responsibility," Holyday says. "I think he's probably a better mayor than he was a councillor."
He says Ford -- as a councillor - had an "unorthodox style."
"Now he's staying on message, he runs the meetings well and he sticks it out at every meeting," Holyday says. "(Miller and Lastman) would be missing in action from the meetings half the time."
Holyday--who says he's liking his role as deputy mayor -- says Ford's first six months have dealt with some of his election promises.
The Etobicoke councillor says he's been surprised by the majority of support Ford has found on council on most issues.
"They know that the voting public is on side with Ford's agenda," Holyday says. "Public opinion and pressure is keeping (councillors) in line."
Asked why the Ford administration has targeted so many of Miller's legacy projects, Holyday says it's due to necessity.
"So many things we couldn't afford to do in the way he planned to do them," Holyday says.
He pointed to the $24-million Fort York pedestrian bridge blown up by the public works committee.
"We would have had to borrow every cent to build it," Holyday says.
He's certain no other mayoral candidate would have gone in the direction Ford has gone.
"It's what's needed."
Mayor has wasted no time in tearing down David Miller's legacy and generally throwing his weight around
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/05/29/six-months-in-ford-is-large-and-in-charge
Deputy mayor Doug Holyday says he's been impressed with Ford's tenure so far.
"He's stepped up to the plate as mayor and assumed that responsibility," Holyday says. "I think he's probably a better mayor than he was a councillor."
He says Ford -- as a councillor - had an "unorthodox style."
"Now he's staying on message, he runs the meetings well and he sticks it out at every meeting," Holyday says. "(Miller and Lastman) would be missing in action from the meetings half the time."
Holyday--who says he's liking his role as deputy mayor -- says Ford's first six months have dealt with some of his election promises.
The Etobicoke councillor says he's been surprised by the majority of support Ford has found on council on most issues.
"They know that the voting public is on side with Ford's agenda," Holyday says. "Public opinion and pressure is keeping (councillors) in line."
Asked why the Ford administration has targeted so many of Miller's legacy projects, Holyday says it's due to necessity.
"So many things we couldn't afford to do in the way he planned to do them," Holyday says.
He pointed to the $24-million Fort York pedestrian bridge blown up by the public works committee.
"We would have had to borrow every cent to build it," Holyday says.
He's certain no other mayoral candidate would have gone in the direction Ford has gone.
"It's what's needed."
grey
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Wow, praise for Ford from one of his cronies. Great article, AG.
TonyV
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lmao!!!
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Thanks my friend, how does it feel to be part of the 15% of Torontonians that think he's not doing a good job.
grey
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It makes me feel pretty well-informed.
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