[themarc]

As for the Queen subway, that was abandoned in favour of the Bloor Danforth line, and it was never actually supposed to be underground, it was an open cut with right of way.

Right. I stand corrected.

 

[OreoKitten]

Right. I stand corrected.

And I correct myself....lol....the streetcar was supposed to actually go underground through the core and back up again, hence Lower Queen.

 

[JWBF]

Years ago, as in 1966? That's when they talked about dropping all the streetcars in the system by 1980, and it wasn't Council but the TTC board that made the call to keep them after Streetcars for Toronto convinced them to in the early 1970's. Two Councillors were in that organization however.

As for the Queen subway, that was abandoned in favour of the Bloor Danforth line, and it was never actually supposed to be underground, it was an open cut with right of way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Street_subway
http://www.blogto.com/city/2010/10/what_ever_happened_to_the_queen_street_subway_line/
http://transit.toronto.on.ca/subway/5104.shtml
http://stevemunro.ca/?p=324

 

[Greg Banks]

His reference to King was "years ago" and then "but Councillors decided to go with Streetcars".

Truth is Queen was abandoned due to the cost of the Yonge line being built iirc. Mayor doesn't even know his own city's history.

You got to give him a little leeway....If he repeats it enough it is the truth....
Just like the B-D Extension that was his proposal....he led the charge...GDB and Stintz were only followers...He always wanted the McCowan corridor...He campaigned on it...Just because there is video of R Ford outlining his 2010 transportation plan with the B-D Ext running down the SRT ROW at a cost of 1B doesn't mean he meant it...he always wanted the McC corridor at 3.45B...

 

[casita]

It gets into a retro vaudeville act (The Ford Follies) when Fordish is being spoken by two performers (at once or in turns) like the Brothers Ford.

It's like trying to interview Lou Costello.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=airT-m9LcoY&list=RDairT-m9LcoY#t=3

 

[Racquette]

Yep. It would be easy if speaking Fordish means you just lie 100% of the time. But it isn't. It can vary anywhere from 50/50, to 99/1 %. It gets into a retro vaudeville act (The Ford Follies) when Fordish is being spoken by two performers (at once or in turns) like the Brothers Ford.

A tag-team patter-song act - yikes!

ETA a shout-out to casita - how you find these so-appropriate youtube items, etc. I do not know, but it's brilliant.

 

[pud99]

 

[Greg Banks]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Street_subway
http://www.blogto.com/city/2010/10/what_ever_happened_to_the_queen_street_subway_line/
http://transit.toronto.on.ca/subway/5104.shtml
http://stevemunro.ca/?p=324

I'm not quite sure how far that map goes back but it seems to me it looks like about 1948.
Anyone notice the dots extending from up from Danforth & Pape....looks to be a plan for the DRL to relieve Leaside and connect with Eg...How about that, the same plan they were mulling 60+ years ago they're mulling today...

 

[hper]

Maybe FN is going hard-hat for their next rally. Those signs their squad carries wield look like they could decapitate.

Speaking of hardhats, remember this guy?

The proto-Ford Nationalist. Cronenberg directed 'The Dead Zone', so Sheen's character may in fact have been based on that colourful Toronto gadfly, Ernst Zundel.

 

[JWBF]

You got to give him a little leeway....If he repeats it enough it is the truth....
Just like the B-D Extension that was his proposal....he led the charge...GDB and Stintz were only followers...He always wanted the McCowan corridor...He campaigned on it...Just because there is video of R Ford outlining his 2010 transportation plan with the B-D Ext running down the SRT ROW at a cost of 1B doesn't mean he meant it...he always wanted the McC corridor at 3.45B...

No, Robbie in 2010 proposed a BD extension up the RT corrador, not the McCowan corridor that is proposed in Stintz's plan.

Goto 2:56 in the video. http://bikingtoronto.com/blog/2010/09/rob-ford-releases-transportation-plan/

http://www.blogto.com/city/2011/12/remember_rob_fords_transportation_plan/

 

[casita]

The Downfall of Rob Ford's Subway Vision
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BrsbAVNrIU

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https://twitter.com/TOMayorFrod/status/496801791406002177/photo/1

 

[JWBF]

I'm not quite sure how far that map goes back but it seems to me it looks like about 1948.
Anyone notice the dots extending from up from Danforth & Pape....looks to be a plan for the DRL to relieve Leaside and connect with Eg...How about that, the same plan they were mulling 60+ years ago they're mulling today...

Actually 1946, the dotted lines were existing or proposed bus routes. If you want to know more about the DRL proposals and history go to http://drlnow.ca.

 

[fishie]

It's like trying to interview Lou Costello.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=airT-m9LcoY&list=RDairT-m9LcoY#t=3

Or Bobby Kennedy interviewing Jimmy Hoffa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsWVzTK0__s (Starts around 0:52)

Eeshh - Hoffa's giving off a real "Doug/Thug" vibe. Hope Giroux et al fair better than RFK.

 

[nohostages]

[QUOTEThere are posters on this thread way sharper than me![/QUOTE]

Thanks Wagstaff and Ghost. That helps. I think my problem with old posts is because the thread was split and rejoined. But the little button deal is sweet.some of my best stuff is auto correction. For instance Wagstaff came out wastage. (Not casting aspersions) I think you are pretty sharp.

 

[Greg Banks]

No, Robbie in 2010 proposed a BD extension up the RT corrador, not the McCowan corridor that is proposed in Stintz's plan.

Goto 2:56 in the video. http://bikingtoronto.com/blog/2010/09/rob-ford-releases-transportation-plan/

http://www.blogto.com/city/2011/12/remember_rob_fords_transportation_plan/

...chuckle...