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Rob Ford called me recently and he didn't sound too good. His voice was raw and he sounded like he was about to fall asleep. I think he needs a rest. On a good note, I had 3 people call me the next day, to follow up with the call, so he seems to be serious about getting things done. I was told the postering on light poles (and anything that doesn't move) will be cleaned up soon. I hope it's not just talk.
 
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That's one of the very few things I have in agreement with the new Mayor. I don't see this kind of broad daylight blatant postering anywhere else. The hidden back alley tags and graffiti is one thing.... but a guy with a trolly walking down Queen St. and postering everything from posts to parking meters. There's a problem and it needs to be addressed. If anybody will do it it's clean-obsessive Rob Ford.
 
That's one of the very few things I have in agreement with the new Mayor. I don't see this kind of broad daylight blatant postering anywhere else. The hidden back alley tags and graffiti is one thing.... but a guy with a trolly walking down Queen St. and postering everything from posts to parking meters. There's a problem and it needs to be addressed. If anybody will do it it's clean-obsessive Rob Ford.

If Mr Ford is that clean-obsessive, perhaps he should do something about the grimey TTC environment ( station and vehicles ). Of course His Royal Rotundness would not be aware of this since he does not even take the TTC, even though the bus stop is literally in the front of his house.
 
If anybody will do it it's clean-obsessive Rob Ford.

While I'd too would like to see them cleaned up, I can't get past the apparent contradiction of wanting to contain costs and reduce staffing levels while also promising relatively superficial services that would require hiring more workers (and how many additional workers would be needed to realistically make a real dent on cleaning up posters - ie how many poles could a one or two person crew clean in a day?)

Or will he find some way to get some real enforcement in place and actually be able to fine the commercial interests sponsoring the postering?
 
I think you could see a marked decrease in the amount of postering if you spent a little money on a small ad campaign letting business owners and residents know that they are fully encouraged to tear down posters in their neighbourhoods. I think people right now tend not to touch them because they're not sure what constitutes an illegal poster.
 
Why would he want to punish the small business owner by doing that?

It's populist politics. The majority of people aren't small business owners. They're just going to see that their residential property taxes didn't go up.
 
It's populist politics. The majority of people aren't small business owners. They're just going to see that their residential property taxes didn't go up.

Until they start seeing local businesses which may be enhancing their lifestyle closing up. Perhaps Ford would ensure that the residential property tax rate would not go up but that would not matter if your house will be re-assessed in 2012.
 
Until they start seeing local businesses which may be enhancing their lifestyle closing up. Perhaps Ford would ensure that the residential property tax rate would not go up but that would not matter if your house will be re-assessed in 2012.

We're on the same page - it's a really dumb idea. But you're putting a lot of faith in the average joe and the media if you think people will connect any dots beyond "Wow, no property tax rate increase this year!"
 
"I think you could see a marked decrease in the amount of postering if you spent a little money on a small ad campaign letting business owners and residents know that they are fully encouraged to tear down posters in their neighbourhoods. I think people right now tend not to touch them because they're not sure what constitutes an illegal poster."

I don't really care whether it's legal or not, if I see an ad and I can take it down, it comes down. In any given week during my neighbourhood walks I take down at least 200-300 posters, virtually all of them of the .com spam variety, such as junk haulers, language schools, driving schools, contractors, and all other sorts of businesses. Amazing how much one can get done with a box cutter and a plastic bag. The problem really is that bad, and most of these are placed along residential streets, not main streets like Yonge or Mount Pleasant, which makes it even more disgusting in my mind. Lost cat ads, or garage sale signs, those I leave up, anything else is gone.

And without exception, every time someone sees me doing this, they thank me. Not once has someone said I'm depriving someone of their livelihood or freedom of expression or whatever other bullshit excuse postering apologists use. There really is no excuse for this behaviour, and when you see the sheer mounds of paper that go into the trash, you realize not only what an affront this activity is on an aesthetic level and from the perspective of maintaining a respectable public realm, but what an environmental atrocity this is: I would estimate that, just on my own, about a garbage bag worths' of paper goes right to landfill every week. That's one small section of town, over one week. Take all of the thousands of ads plastered along Queen, King, Bathurst, etc. (to say nothing of plastic signs and such) and there are easily hundreds of tonnes of this junk going to landfill every year. In a digital age this is inexcusable. Only pure, base, naked greed motivates companies to engage in this behaviour, and no one, not the city, not individuals or BIAs, should apologize for doing whatever it takes to remove this material.

Postering cheapens whatever it touches, and if Rob Ford imposes Draconian fines for this practice, he will have an easy time of it. I really do think people have reached an end point, as more and more people go to other cities, see the complete lack of postering that occurs, and then come back and are assaulted by the wallpaper of shit placed everywhere. It's commercial vandalism, full stop.

And as to the question of how to pay for ad cleaners, we have an excellent model in the Downtown Yonge BIA, where a private company sends workers everyday out to clean ads off of street furniture. If that model can be replicated across every BIA (perhaps even legally required to do so) then postering will disappear within a year. Coupled with fines, name-and-shame campaigns, and people like myself doing what I do, then I think this practice can finally be broken.

This site is enlightening, and depressing:

http://www.causs-canada.org/index.html
 
The city should amend the billboard tax to include a fee of $10 per pole per sign per week (or some other amount). To those who support postering, please provide your home address so advertisers know where they would be able to poster gratis.
 
Why would he want to punish the small business owner by doing that?
Because Ford is really, really stupid. But doesn't want to piss off residential voters.

The obvious answer is to continue with Miller's plan to rebalance property taxes so that small businesses pay less and residents pay more. It even fits with the general Tory ideology.
 
"I think you could see a marked decrease in the amount of postering if you spent a little money on a small ad campaign letting business owners and residents know that they are fully encouraged to tear down posters in their neighbourhoods. I think people right now tend not to touch them because they're not sure what constitutes an illegal poster."

I don't really care whether it's legal or not, if I see an ad and I can take it down, it comes down. In any given week during my neighbourhood walks I take down at least 200-300 posters, virtually all of them of the .com spam variety, such as junk haulers, language schools, driving schools, contractors, and all other sorts of businesses. Amazing how much one can get done with a box cutter and a plastic bag. The problem really is that bad, and most of these are placed along residential streets, not main streets like Yonge or Mount Pleasant, which makes it even more disgusting in my mind. Lost cat ads, or garage sale signs, those I leave up, anything else is gone.

And without exception, every time someone sees me doing this, they thank me. Not once has someone said I'm depriving someone of their livelihood or freedom of expression or whatever other bullshit excuse postering apologists use. There really is no excuse for this behaviour, and when you see the sheer mounds of paper that go into the trash, you realize not only what an affront this activity is on an aesthetic level and from the perspective of maintaining a respectable public realm, but what an environmental atrocity this is: I would estimate that, just on my own, about a garbage bag worths' of paper goes right to landfill every week. That's one small section of town, over one week. Take all of the thousands of ads plastered along Queen, King, Bathurst, etc. (to say nothing of plastic signs and such) and there are easily hundreds of tonnes of this junk going to landfill every year. In a digital age this is inexcusable. Only pure, base, naked greed motivates companies to engage in this behaviour, and no one, not the city, not individuals or BIAs, should apologize for doing whatever it takes to remove this material.

Postering cheapens whatever it touches, and if Rob Ford imposes Draconian fines for this practice, he will have an easy time of it. I really do think people have reached an end point, as more and more people go to other cities, see the complete lack of postering that occurs, and then come back and are assaulted by the wallpaper of shit placed everywhere. It's commercial vandalism, full stop.

And as to the question of how to pay for ad cleaners, we have an excellent model in the Downtown Yonge BIA, where a private company sends workers everyday out to clean ads off of street furniture. If that model can be replicated across every BIA (perhaps even legally required to do so) then postering will disappear within a year. Coupled with fines, name-and-shame campaigns, and people like myself doing what I do, then I think this practice can finally be broken.

This site is enlightening, and depressing:

http://www.causs-canada.org/index.html

Thanks for your work Fiendish. I've always thought that the single most effective and appropriate solution is to SPAM the SPAMMERS.

Every commercially minded sign will have a number to call, an email to contact or a URL to visit. It's a matter of setting up an automated calling system with a recording shaming the business for visually polluting Toronto. Add email addresses to known spammer sites (i.e. porn) and set up Denial of Service attacks on URLs advertised on posters. Pretty soon, businesses will be inconvenienced enough to stop using this method.
 
That's one of the very few things I have in agreement with the new Mayor. I don't see this kind of broad daylight blatant postering anywhere else. The hidden back alley tags and graffiti is one thing.... but a guy with a trolly walking down Queen St. and postering everything from posts to parking meters. There's a problem and it needs to be addressed. If anybody will do it it's clean-obsessive Rob Ford.

Was no one else's neighbourhood plastered with "Be a Real Canadian! - Support Democracy! - Vote for Rob Ford!" posters? There's still a few clinging around, faded and torn.
 
Great article from John Lorinc today regarding the city's finances, including this interesting tidbit:

On top of the news from earlier this fall that the city will post a $275 million surplus for fiscal 2010, TTC chief general manager Gary Webster on Friday revealed that the combination of ridership growth and cost containment will yield a $60 million surplus for the same period [PDF]. The windfall, presumably, means the TTC will be asked to make do with a smaller subsidy from the city -- $370 million compared to the $430 million that had been budgeted for 2010.

In other words, after the TTC’s annus horribilis, the embattled agency and Toronto commuters will ante up exactly enough cash to kill the vehicle registration tax for 2011.

More: http://spacingtoronto.ca/2010/12/13/lorinc-who-really-stopped-the-gravy-train/

Now, I know I'm a left-wing kook and all, but using a transit agency's surplus to essentially give motorists a break is kind of a shitty policy, isn't it?
 
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